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*people who are alleged and accused of committing a crime and often didn't

by 93po 3y ago

seanmcdirmid 3y ago
Yes, but you shouldn’t really be allowed to jump bail multiple times while you are being accused of a new crime every other week.
rayiner 3y ago
Almost everyone accused of commuting a crime is guilty. It’s good we have a process for being sure. But don’t confuse the process for reality.
- 93po 3y ago
  You are massively wrong. Only 59% of people charged with a felony actually get convicted of it, as of 2018: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conviction_rate#United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conviction_rate#United_States This means nearly half of these people getting thrown in jail and/or having to post bond will never get convicted of the "high risk bond" crime they're accused of doing.
  - seanmcdirmid 3y ago
    A lot of that is just bargaining down to a misdemeanor or prosecutors not wanting to fill up jails and prisons too much. Going with the revolving door in king county, our prosecutors simply don’t want to put people in jail anymore, even for major property crimes, unless violence is involved.
    - 93po 3y ago
      > or prosecutors not wanting to fill up jails and prisons too much this is laughably not the case, and as of March they were looking at continuing to put more people in jail to the extent of shipping them out to other jails in the region to make room: https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/king-county-looks-to-contract-out-jail-services-to-deal-with-understaffing-rising-populations/ https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/king-county-looks-... The only real reason prosecutors would choose to not prosecute is because they know they don't have the resources to get convictions (or because of outside political pressure)
  - xyzzyz 3y ago
    You are confusing “not guilty” with “not convicted”. We know that most guilty people never end up convicted, this is the whole problem.
    - 93po 3y ago
      > We know that most guilty people never end up convicted Going to need a source for this, otherwise it sounds like "I just say it how it is" type of arguing.

*people who are alleged and accused of committing a crime and often didn't

by 93po 3y ago

*people who are alleged and accused of committing a crime and often didn't

Yes, but you shouldn’t really be allowed to jump bail multiple times while you are being accused of a new crime every other week.

rayiner 3y ago

Almost everyone accused of commuting a crime is guilty. It’s good we have a process for being sure. But don’t confuse the process for reality.

93po 3y ago
You are massively wrong. Only 59% of people charged with a felony actually get convicted of it, as of 2018: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conviction_rate#United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conviction_rate#United_States This means nearly half of these people getting thrown in jail and/or having to post bond will never get convicted of the "high risk bond" crime they're accused of doing.
- seanmcdirmid 3y ago
  A lot of that is just bargaining down to a misdemeanor or prosecutors not wanting to fill up jails and prisons too much. Going with the revolving door in king county, our prosecutors simply don’t want to put people in jail anymore, even for major property crimes, unless violence is involved.
  - 93po 3y ago
    > or prosecutors not wanting to fill up jails and prisons too much this is laughably not the case, and as of March they were looking at continuing to put more people in jail to the extent of shipping them out to other jails in the region to make room: https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/king-county-looks-to-contract-out-jail-services-to-deal-with-understaffing-rising-populations/ https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/king-county-looks-... The only real reason prosecutors would choose to not prosecute is because they know they don't have the resources to get convictions (or because of outside political pressure)
- xyzzyz 3y ago
  You are confusing “not guilty” with “not convicted”. We know that most guilty people never end up convicted, this is the whole problem.
  - 93po 3y ago
    > We know that most guilty people never end up convicted Going to need a source for this, otherwise it sounds like "I just say it how it is" type of arguing.