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Bard API
- chucknthem 3y agoOver 200 GitHub stars already, wonder if it’ll reach 1000 stars first or if Google would issue a take down notice first. Popularly of this clearly shows there’s demand for it, so I hope Google officially releases an API soon.
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- EGreg 3y agoYea I remember how we all wished Cadillac would release the Ciel, but they never did. Anyone know what I’m talkin about ??
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- TheBlapse 3y agoThe reverse engineering one reached 729 stars! https://github.com/acheong08/Bard https://github.com/acheong08/Bard And this API was inspired from it according to the author
- danpalmer 3y agoPersonal opinion, I'm not sure this matters too much. This is using your own session cookie to access Bard, and it will be rate limited to whatever rate limit Google apply to individuals using Bard, which will likely be insufficient to run a business off. If you want to get a better API, more model access, and higher quotas, you can pay for access via Google Cloud. Disclaimer, I work for Google, not on this, and this is all just my personal opinion not based on any insider info.
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- ilaksh 3y agoThey did release the official API, its for PaLM 2, part of their Vertex AI thing inside the Google Cloud (GCP) console. Search for "Model garden".
- bottom999mottob 3y agoAnyone think this will stay safe from the Google moat?
- berkle4455 3y agoDoesn’t Google have a history of unceremoniously banning your entire Google account for accessing their systems in ways they didn’t authorize?
- chrisshroba 3y agoThis is the fear that keeps me from ever using projects like this - if I lost access to my google account there would be so many headaches
- panarky 3y agoWhy not just use the officially supported Vertex AI API?
- ilaksh 3y agoBecause they don't know it exists.
- jasfi 3y agoThey really need to release an official API. I was trying to find out the pricing for API access, but it's not available yet. The API used by this Python package seems to go through an unofficial route.
- collaborative 3y agoI mean, this "API" is free whereas an official API could be charged I guess it's only fair that we may scrape Bard just like Bard scrapes us? I think it's called "disruption" :-)
- amf12 3y agoThey have released it I believe. I can see Palm being available: https://cloud.google.com/model-garden https://cloud.google.com/model-garden
- putlake 3y agoThanks for sharing the link. It is a testament to Google's failure marketing its cloud offerings that, despite wanting to try out this API, I had been unable to find it until you helpfully shared the link. I went down the cloud console rabbit hole to play with it. Only the bison model was available (of the non-descriptively named gecko, otter, bison, unicorn models). For innocuous prompts I got this error: "The response is blocked because the input or response potentially violates our policies. Try rephrasing the prompt or adjusting the parameter settings. Currently, only English is supported." Where it did respond, I liked the quality. It was comparable to the GPT-3.5 API. Perhaps a little better even.
- sanxiyn 3y agoFrom personal experience, Bard's quality seems to be between GPT-3.5 and GPT-4, closer to GPT-4 if you have to bet. Except when fresh or live data matters, where Bard is clearly superior. (Bard's training data is up to Feb 2023 compared to ChatGPT's Sep 2021, and Bard also gets live data from Google search.) MMLU benchmark score agrees with this estimate: GPT-3.5 (70.0%), PaLM 2 (81.2%), GPT-4 (86.4%).
- jb1991 3y agoI wonder if I’m the only one who’s getting tirelessly bored of all this AI stuff in the news. Sure it has some entertainment value and it is interesting and useful in certain ways, but the constant discussion and hype and near obsession with it, or at least that’s how it seems, is at odds with my reactions.
- ramijames 3y agoIt's not just you. Very few of these things are genuinely interesting.
- ggm 3y agoIts a two-parter. 1) the hype machine is sickening. Its the crypto bros but on steroids and because $$$ the various money pundits have bought in. And philosophers. Excluding the people who should know better and use terms-of-art in ways which are misunderstood, the pundits are doing what they do based on their belief they know what the terms of art mean. A word like "hallucinate" implies a consciousness. They don't know its a co-opted term for when a model does crazy shit (even using the word crazy implies something) 2) the concerns Hinton and others express about regulation, and a need for oversight are real. Forget the hype machine, call these "expert systems" and reflect back on the machine assisted admissions model for the UK medical schools which entrenched "men get a +2 boost, women -2" enrollment because of how they modelled "do it like now" So I am over the hype, and I am also thinking some of the back story "..wait" stuff is really critical. I don't believe its heading to AGI. I don't believe its even close. I am super concerned about its (mis)application to the real world. Student essays? less concerned. we've dealt with calculators before. Applying gatekeeping to medicine or social services? or writing translations of instructions for machines which have consequences in the real world? Ruh-oh... Watson was trumpeted as gods gift to diagnosticians. Then scales fell from their eyes. That said, the newer models image analysis and detection of early stage illness eg pancreatic cancer, thats truly exciting. I don't want scales to have to fall from anyone's eyes yet. If we start firing diagnosticians before its field proven for a decade, we fucked up. If we use it as an adjunct to improve efficiency and reduce mis-diagnosis, I'm there.
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- roschdal 3y agoBard is not available in Norway. Alphabet is an American company clearly.
- spidersouris 3y agoDuring I/O they said that they'd be expanding the number of supported countries the day of the conference, but access is still restricted in France. I don't know what they're doing.
- williamstein 3y agoI wonder if Google has not yet released an API due to a desire to keep control and also ensure their products (docs, gmail) have a major lead over everybody outside Google? What is their motivation for not providing API access? It can’t be purely due to it being too difficult for them, since they are very skilled engineers.
- hutzlibu 3y agoBecause they are still in rush mode, after OpenAI gave them pressure? So I would say, it is simply not ready yet. A working internal API is not automatically ready, to be a public facing API.
- butz 3y agoIs API region locked too?
- rany_ 3y agoYes it is. Back when my country wasn't supported I had to use a proxy to access it.