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Who is funding non-profits to pay high-risk bonds for criminals like car thieves?
by harshreality 3y ago
Who is funding non-profits to pay high-risk bonds for criminals like car thieves?
- 93po 3y ago*people who are alleged and accused of committing a crime and often didn't
- seanmcdirmid 3y agoYes, but you shouldn’t really be allowed to jump bail multiple times while you are being accused of a new crime every other week.
- rayiner 3y agoAlmost everyone accused of commuting a crime is guilty. It’s good we have a process for being sure. But don’t confuse the process for reality.
- 93po 3y agoYou are massively wrong. Only 59% of people charged with a felony actually get convicted of it, as of 2018: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conviction_rate#United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conviction_rate#United_States This means nearly half of these people getting thrown in jail and/or having to post bond will never get convicted of the "high risk bond" crime they're accused of doing.
- seanmcdirmid 3y agoA lot of that is just bargaining down to a misdemeanor or prosecutors not wanting to fill up jails and prisons too much. Going with the revolving door in king county, our prosecutors simply don’t want to put people in jail anymore, even for major property crimes, unless violence is involved.
- 93po 3y ago> or prosecutors not wanting to fill up jails and prisons too much this is laughably not the case, and as of March they were looking at continuing to put more people in jail to the extent of shipping them out to other jails in the region to make room: https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/king-county-looks-to-contract-out-jail-services-to-deal-with-understaffing-rising-populations/ https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/king-county-looks-... The only real reason prosecutors would choose to not prosecute is because they know they don't have the resources to get convictions (or because of outside political pressure)
- xyzzyz 3y agoYou are confusing “not guilty” with “not convicted”. We know that most guilty people never end up convicted, this is the whole problem.
- 93po 3y ago> We know that most guilty people never end up convicted Going to need a source for this, otherwise it sounds like "I just say it how it is" type of arguing.
- xyzzyz 3y agoNaive do-gooders, who do not care about the non profits losing the bond money, because they never learn about it. Non profits don’t care either, as they get their cut anyway, and get good feelings too.
- zoklet-enjoyer 3y agohttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Freedom_Fund https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Freedom_Fund
- seanmcdirmid 3y agoThe non profits actually argue that they should get the bond money back even when the assailants skip bond, and they actually often do. So it’s like they suffer no consequences (the non profit or the assailants).
- 93po 3y ago[flagged]
- seanmcdirmid 3y agoFor Seattle, it’s the Northwest Community Bail Fund. They do bail as long as the crime is non violent, and sometimes even it is.