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Banishment needs to be brought back as a form of punishment. The 99% cannot let the 1% ruin it for everyone. We need penal colony Australia 2.0.
by oatmeal1 3y ago
Banishment needs to be brought back as a form of punishment. The 99% cannot let the 1% ruin it for everyone. We need penal colony Australia 2.0.
- paxys 3y ago"Banishment" to where exactly?
- rickreynoldssf 3y agoPrison?
- willcipriano 3y agoConsider "violence island", we find a isolated place and allow the violent to express themselves together.
- orangepurple 3y ago[flagged]
- EdwardDiego 3y agoSo, prison. Just with more obvious weapons.
- willcipriano 3y agoPrison is step one for the violent and most people in prison haven't commited a violent crime. We will make say three honest attempts to reform you but if you can't go around without seriously harming others eventually we have to cut our losses. Is putting the violent among themselves really all that bad?
- 1270018080 3y agoAustralia
- EdwardDiego 3y agoSadly they've changed the rules, and now a conviction isn't a requirement to get in any more.
- netsharc 3y agoAn idea of penal colony is idiotic (sorry to break HN rules), but why not long term prison. I wonder if it could be codified into law. "If you've been responsible for x% of convictions, we will imprison you for increasingly longer periods", or "Top 1% of people when sorted by number of convictions will get a long-ass sentence the next time they get convicted."...
- throwaway290 3y agoWhy idiotic? Are there examples of bad precedents?
- Duwensatzaj 3y agoThis is codified in law. Habitual offender sentence enhancement or three strikes laws.
- EdwardDiego 3y agoThis already happens in sentencing. If you've been convicted of similar offending in the past, the judge is going to sentence you more harshly. And in some countries, if you're a proven perpetual threat, the judge can issue a preventive detention sentence. It has the advantage over the death penalty in that's reversible if a miscarriage of justice occurs.
- rayiner 3y ago[flagged]
- throwaway290 3y agoMars. I think it was sorta that in The Expanse? (Only saw series)
- whartung 3y agoManhattan. Pretty sure I saw a documentary on this once.
- listenallyall 3y agoIf I recall, the way in was to land a glider on the roof of World Trade Center. This would obviously not work today. Overcome that issue and you've got a plan!
- jalk 3y agoAnd we can always send in Snake Plissken in case of issues ;)
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- ggm 3y agoThis was an economic problem as much as punishment. If they really only wanted to reduce the crime, since most transportees were subject to capital punishment (I think the value was absurdly low, some figure less than a pound value in theft attracted a death penalty) they could have just killed them. The point was to extract value from their labours, elsewhere. Also, Australia v1.0 was Carribean/USA v2.0 if the UK/US war hadn't ended transportation to sugar and tobacco plantations they'd have continued supplying Jane Austen with plots (Mansfield park) Subsequently it was political: pre union protosocialist chartists, Irish independence players.
- seanmcdirmid 3y agoThe USSR would deport political enemies to small remote cities, then force them to even live outside (5 km?) of those.
- ggm 3y ago"Cancer Ward" is sort-of about the post Khrushchev thaw, and how one political feels conflicted about his exile, and ultimately returns to the settler steppes. Emma Goldman, and around 100 other US left wingers were exiled to the USSR by a young J. Edgar Hoover in the post WW1 context. I don't think it was colonising behaviour however.
- EdwardDiego 3y agoThat's what prison is. Just with less theft of land.
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