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France is a paradise inhabited by people who think they’re in hell

10 points by solalf 3y ago

json121 3y ago
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jim-jim-jim 3y ago
> When you adjust economic performance for climate footprint (which we should do for every country), France leads all of its peers. Whereas the US generates 0.28 tonnes of greenhouse gases to produce $1,000 of GDP, France does the same with only 0.14 tonnes of emissions. I wonder what the reason is, and why the Guardian would omit it.
- lisasays 3y ago
  I wonder what the reason is Multiple factors, including transportation, land use, and yeah, what you're hinting at. The Guardian isn't especially anti-nuke these days, btw.
- p-e-w 3y ago
  The reason is nuclear power, and the statement is only true if "emissions" is defined to exclude incredibly dangerous stuff that we bury somewhere in the hopes that it won't surface again as long as anyone we care about is still alive.
  - bombcar 3y ago
    One could burn dioxygen difluoride for power and produce no carbon!
shrimp_emoji 3y ago
Where you turn down the heat the most, you get the biggest snowflakes. ;p (And I'm not saying that's necessarily a bad thing, despite the normally pejorative term.)
proc0 3y ago
> only to have someone defecate in front of the restaurant as he was walking in. ... He wasn’t aware of the incident of a business owner hosing down a homeless person and had to have the crowd explain it Did the crowd just side with defecating on the street because you got hosed down with water? If I had to choose I'd take the hose down instead of a giant turd near my door. This seems either masochism or ignorance (which includes thinking you understand history better and have some enlightened perspective), or both.
ciconia 3y ago
My feelings exactly. I've immigrated to France with my family about 10 years ago. I always say to my French friends who complain about their country: "you have no idea how lucky you are to live in this country. I do!"

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France is a paradise inhabited by people who think they’re in hell

10 points by solalf 3y ago

json121 3y ago
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jim-jim-jim 3y ago
> When you adjust economic performance for climate footprint (which we should do for every country), France leads all of its peers. Whereas the US generates 0.28 tonnes of greenhouse gases to produce $1,000 of GDP, France does the same with only 0.14 tonnes of emissions. I wonder what the reason is, and why the Guardian would omit it.
- lisasays 3y ago
  I wonder what the reason is Multiple factors, including transportation, land use, and yeah, what you're hinting at. The Guardian isn't especially anti-nuke these days, btw.
- p-e-w 3y ago
  The reason is nuclear power, and the statement is only true if "emissions" is defined to exclude incredibly dangerous stuff that we bury somewhere in the hopes that it won't surface again as long as anyone we care about is still alive.
  - bombcar 3y ago
    One could burn dioxygen difluoride for power and produce no carbon!
shrimp_emoji 3y ago
Where you turn down the heat the most, you get the biggest snowflakes. ;p (And I'm not saying that's necessarily a bad thing, despite the normally pejorative term.)
proc0 3y ago
> only to have someone defecate in front of the restaurant as he was walking in. ... He wasn’t aware of the incident of a business owner hosing down a homeless person and had to have the crowd explain it Did the crowd just side with defecating on the street because you got hosed down with water? If I had to choose I'd take the hose down instead of a giant turd near my door. This seems either masochism or ignorance (which includes thinking you understand history better and have some enlightened perspective), or both.
ciconia 3y ago
My feelings exactly. I've immigrated to France with my family about 10 years ago. I always say to my French friends who complain about their country: "you have no idea how lucky you are to live in this country. I do!"