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This kind of shit is one of the reasons why people stop believing in western democracy.
by sva_ 3y ago
This kind of shit is one of the reasons why people stop believing in western democracy.
- EMCymatics 3y ago[flagged]
- whitemary 3y ago"Stop" should be past tense and you forgot the quotation marks around "democracy"
- astrange 3y agoPublic comments aren't votes so they aren't part of democracy. Influencing an unelected official like the FCC chair who gets to rule however he wants isn't democracy.
- Pulcinella 3y agoDemocracy is far, far, far more than just mere voting and that fact that you believe this basically just proves the original point.
- astrange 3y agoComments that have no legal force (because they're not actually required to respond or respect them) surely aren't. There's other situations like community meetings for land use that are far more democratic. Although, those are mostly bad, because it means only people with lots of free time can attend them!
- omniglottal 3y agoYet public commentary was requested and even required to be evaluated. Therefor, fraud existed. Either is was the US government implying this was a democratic process, or the perpetrators of identity theft committed a crime. Which was it?
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- 7speter 3y agoBeing able to influence (both up and down the social pecking order) seems to be a very prominent characteristic of Democracy, but I could be wrong.
- astrange 3y agoSeems more like petitioning a monarch to me. A more democratic system would be that if an official doesn't listen to you, they lose their election. Ajit Pai doesn't have an election.
- robocat 3y agoAnd yet democracy so tarnished still appears better to me than the alternatives we have tried so far. I haven’t lived in some of the alternatives, but I have visited some, and I feel fortunate to have been born in New Zealand.
- isaacremuant 3y ago> and I feel fortunate to have been born in New Zealand Just make sure you don't have the wrong opinions. Such as not going with the medical coercion and banning of civil rights that occured from 2020. Oh, my bad, that authoranianism is good and they deserved it - Signed, Mr G.
- jabradoodle 3y agoThere are places that were welding people's homes shut at that point. Do you suggest we move away from democracy or try to fix the failings of our systems?
- isaacremuant 3y ago> There are places that were welding people's homes shut at that point. Yes. Many places including new Zealand did unthinkable authortiarian things. Easily could be classified as torture. > Do you suggest we move away from democracy or try to fix the failings of our systems? How on earth did you arrive at "move away from democracy"? Also, the coercive and sometimes violent authortiarianism perpetrated by govs with media/big tech collaboration (who saw massive profits from lockdowns) had little to do with democracy. In fact, extreme powers that go against different constituinal documents were enacted in the most damaging security theater ever.
- green_man_lives 3y agoNet Neutrality was one of the handful of things I wrote my representatives about. I knew it was going to be mostly fruitless, but goddamn this is disgusting.
- arp242 3y agoThe same people who wrote the comments also sent about half a million fake letters to members of congress, about 900 per representative. The bad news is that they did this. The good news is that they thought this would help, so writing your representative perhaps isn't entirely useless?
- yosito 3y agoWell, there's always that expat camp in Russia if you just can't take oppressive Western democracy anymore.
- damg- 3y ago[flagged]
- EMCymatics 3y agoI'm not sure why my previous comment is flagged. Clearly democracy is better than the alternatives.
- ordu 3y agoThey are wrong here. A regime which is not western democracy probably would pretend that nothing happened. It is much more suspicious when there are not investigations like this. Sometimes it is worse: such kind of investigations are conducted by independent entities, which are then prosecuted and silenced. I agree, that fine is a joke and cast doubt on western democracy, but what I want to say, is like Chircill's: Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.[1] In practice absolute level of your belief doesn't matter, only a relative one when comparing with alternatives. [1] https://winstonchurchill.org/resources/quotes/the-worst-form-of-government/ https://winstonchurchill.org/resources/quotes/the-worst-form...
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- makeitdouble 3y agoThis is the actual "vote with your money" everyone's talking about.