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Why is this not a good thing? Could you please expand upon this, or offer some sources that support your claim? Isn't it also the case that lowered exposure to

Why is this not a good thing? Could you please expand upon this, or offer some sources that support your claim? Isn't it also the case that lowered exposure to general pathogens, also decreases general tolerance and resistance to them, leading to more complications down the line? Thus living in a clinically scrubbed environment can also be equally as harmful, which could also be part of the aftermath of 2020? This is of course anecdotal, but personally I never had such a bad influenza as after that period of severe isolation, when I finally started meeting people again. And the same is true for many of my colleges, one of which contracted Asthma due to the severity of the disease. This was regular influenza after isolation, and not Corona, btw.

ClumsyPilot 3y ago
> Why is this not a good thing? Could you please expand upon this, or offer some sources that support your claim? I expanded my reply, but why would it be a good thing? Think about it - 'getting ill is good for you' is a counter-intuitive claim, and the only reason you are asking me for proof, is that you have gotten used to accepting this urban legend. This is not 'natural infections' -> there is no natural situation where you stuff 30 monkeys in a box with poor ventilation and raise CO2 concentration to 2000 ppm, so that the few sick monkeys can achieve really high concentration of pathogens. I think the idea that it is 'good' is civilisational copium. It's like when people claimed that sending kids into coal mines builds character.
- Technotroll 3y ago
  > Think about it - 'getting ill is good for you' is a counter-intuitive claim, and the only reason you are asking me for proof, is that you have gotten used to accepting this urban legend. Sorry, "getting ill is good for you" is not what I meant to convey. Instead, what I wrote is that lowered exposure to general pathogens, also decreases general tolerance and resistance to them. This means that it's very likely detrimental to live in "clinically" clean and filtered environments, as it is also detrimental to live in isolation for too long. The most extreme example of this are all the natives who got sick and died as the conquistadors arrived in South America. They died because they had no prior exposure, and thus no defense against, the pathogens that the Europeans unknowingly brought with them. Thus I'm fairly sure that it's trivial to prove that prolonged isolation will also lower your tolerance for common influenza pathogens. I don't know this, of course, but I'm sure an experiment where both yours and my claim were tested would be very interesting to read!
- nradov 3y ago
  Citation needed.

ClumsyPilot 3y ago

> Why is this not a good thing? Could you please expand upon this, or offer some sources that support your claim? I expanded my reply, but why would it be a good thing? Think about it - 'getting ill is good for you' is a counter-intuitive claim, and the only reason you are asking me for proof, is that you have gotten used to accepting this urban legend. This is not 'natural infections' -> there is no natural situation where you stuff 30 monkeys in a box with poor ventilation and raise CO2 concentration to 2000 ppm, so that the few sick monkeys can achieve really high concentration of pathogens. I think the idea that it is 'good' is civilisational copium. It's like when people claimed that sending kids into coal mines builds character.

Technotroll 3y ago
> Think about it - 'getting ill is good for you' is a counter-intuitive claim, and the only reason you are asking me for proof, is that you have gotten used to accepting this urban legend. Sorry, "getting ill is good for you" is not what I meant to convey. Instead, what I wrote is that lowered exposure to general pathogens, also decreases general tolerance and resistance to them. This means that it's very likely detrimental to live in "clinically" clean and filtered environments, as it is also detrimental to live in isolation for too long. The most extreme example of this are all the natives who got sick and died as the conquistadors arrived in South America. They died because they had no prior exposure, and thus no defense against, the pathogens that the Europeans unknowingly brought with them. Thus I'm fairly sure that it's trivial to prove that prolonged isolation will also lower your tolerance for common influenza pathogens. I don't know this, of course, but I'm sure an experiment where both yours and my claim were tested would be very interesting to read!
nradov 3y ago
Citation needed.