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Insulin is abused by some bodybuilders as yet another gimmick in the quest for more size. There are likely other such niche uses/abuses, but that's one that cam

Insulin is abused by some bodybuilders as yet another gimmick in the quest for more size. There are likely other such niche uses/abuses, but that's one that came to mind.

LoganDark 3y ago
Yeah but it's not really addictive or anything. Nobody really falls into an insulin use disorder.
- kalium-xyz 3y ago
  It for sure can create dependency.
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  - LoganDark 3y ago
    So can gluten. I know (personally) at least one person where gluten acts as an opioid in their body. Don't remember the exact details but they get high from it and also get opioid withdrawals if they stop eating gluten. Sounds like an incredibly miserable way to live, honestly.
    - sph 3y ago
      I don't get high off gluten, but I do not tolerate it yet crave it, along with cheese, which contains casein that has the same opioid effect. My favourite junk food, and one that puts me KO for 3 days is a double cheese pizza. Makes me depressed and despondent, bloated and my ADHD meds stop being effective (but my usual dose is quite low on purpose). But that's because of my physiology, the opioid effect is in the strong craving, and how lovely the first bite is, and how I hate myself after the first bite, for having succumbed to its allure once again. Gluten and casein are under-researched. The fact that there is a so called "gluten sensitivity" fad is not a shared hallucination, but some effect we haven't identified or understood yet.
      - yourusername 3y ago
        That's interesting. If you were to make a protein shake with casein powder would that have a noticeable effect on you, or is it only when it is in cheese?
        sph 3y ago
        Dunno, never had a shake. I know milk has a slightly sedating effect, and I haven't been drinking it by choice most of my adult life. I can digest it pretty well I think.

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Insulin is abused by some bodybuilders as yet another gimmick in the quest for more size. There are likely other such niche uses/abuses, but that's one that cam

by noarchy 3y ago

Insulin is abused by some bodybuilders as yet another gimmick in the quest for more size. There are likely other such niche uses/abuses, but that's one that came to mind.

LoganDark 3y ago
Yeah but it's not really addictive or anything. Nobody really falls into an insulin use disorder.
- kalium-xyz 3y ago
  It for sure can create dependency.
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  - LoganDark 3y ago
    So can gluten. I know (personally) at least one person where gluten acts as an opioid in their body. Don't remember the exact details but they get high from it and also get opioid withdrawals if they stop eating gluten. Sounds like an incredibly miserable way to live, honestly.
    - sph 3y ago
      I don't get high off gluten, but I do not tolerate it yet crave it, along with cheese, which contains casein that has the same opioid effect. My favourite junk food, and one that puts me KO for 3 days is a double cheese pizza. Makes me depressed and despondent, bloated and my ADHD meds stop being effective (but my usual dose is quite low on purpose). But that's because of my physiology, the opioid effect is in the strong craving, and how lovely the first bite is, and how I hate myself after the first bite, for having succumbed to its allure once again. Gluten and casein are under-researched. The fact that there is a so called "gluten sensitivity" fad is not a shared hallucination, but some effect we haven't identified or understood yet.
      - yourusername 3y ago
        That's interesting. If you were to make a protein shake with casein powder would that have a noticeable effect on you, or is it only when it is in cheese?
        sph 3y ago
        Dunno, never had a shake. I know milk has a slightly sedating effect, and I haven't been drinking it by choice most of my adult life. I can digest it pretty well I think.