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Since most drugs are the product of public research that then gets gobbled up and privatized by the pharmaceutical industry, we should just build out state capa

Since most drugs are the product of public research that then gets gobbled up and privatized by the pharmaceutical industry, we should just build out state capacity for their manufacture. Taking this one step further, we could even had a national healthcare system that monitors utilization and adjusts production accordingly!

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jbm 3y ago
Pre-Corona-destabilization, and pre-Trump, I wouldn't agree with you, but I do now; especially since we are in the middle of the Opioid crisis. The government can and will seize patents at will. Only a handful of people need to be "convinced" to share their knowledge on production, and there are enough laws and spying that anyone can be "convinced". If a hard left president of the US decided the US wanted to produce drugs, it would produce drugs and that would be the end of it. If children start dying because of drug shortages, this will happen.
- mensetmanusman 3y ago
  Coming from the materials technology arena, those solutions wouldn’t have been available day one if it came out of a government led lab. Government research has no means to pay for the extra effort and talent required to get things done quickly. Also, committee led research can float off into random areas with little applicability this century.
- tstrimple 3y ago
  > If a hard left president of the US Well that’s never going to happen.
version_five 3y ago
> Taking this one step further, we could even had a national healthcare system that monitors utilization and adjusts production accordingly! Yes I've heard that centrally planned economies are great at delivering goods.
- bugglebeetle 3y ago
  It’s true! https://www.versobooks.com/products/636-the-people-s-republic-of-walmart https://www.versobooks.com/products/636-the-people-s-republi...
  - anecdotal1 3y ago
    The centrally planned economy is the cause of the coming recession. It only works in the short term and the damage is larger every cycle
nradov 3y ago
Most drugs are the product of private pharmaceutical companies conducting extremely expensive phase 3 clinical trials. The government sponsored research is a relatively small component of the full cost of bringing a new drug to market.

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jbm 3y ago

Pre-Corona-destabilization, and pre-Trump, I wouldn't agree with you, but I do now; especially since we are in the middle of the Opioid crisis. The government can and will seize patents at will. Only a handful of people need to be "convinced" to share their knowledge on production, and there are enough laws and spying that anyone can be "convinced". If a hard left president of the US decided the US wanted to produce drugs, it would produce drugs and that would be the end of it. If children start dying because of drug shortages, this will happen.

mensetmanusman 3y ago
Coming from the materials technology arena, those solutions wouldn’t have been available day one if it came out of a government led lab. Government research has no means to pay for the extra effort and talent required to get things done quickly. Also, committee led research can float off into random areas with little applicability this century.
tstrimple 3y ago
> If a hard left president of the US Well that’s never going to happen.

version_five 3y ago

> Taking this one step further, we could even had a national healthcare system that monitors utilization and adjusts production accordingly! Yes I've heard that centrally planned economies are great at delivering goods.

bugglebeetle 3y ago
It’s true! https://www.versobooks.com/products/636-the-people-s-republic-of-walmart https://www.versobooks.com/products/636-the-people-s-republi...
- anecdotal1 3y ago
  The centrally planned economy is the cause of the coming recession. It only works in the short term and the damage is larger every cycle

nradov 3y ago

Most drugs are the product of private pharmaceutical companies conducting extremely expensive phase 3 clinical trials. The government sponsored research is a relatively small component of the full cost of bringing a new drug to market.