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Ah, so anarchy. No continuity in government. What rational thinking. I too was a big anarchist when I was 15 and there was a fun punk scene in the Bay Area.

bequanna 3y ago
Anarchy? Not sure I follow. I’m simply saying that you need to compromise with me or I’m willing to take action that will hurt both of us.
- clipsy 3y ago
  If the government was obligated to get approval from every single person for every single decision there would be no government; you cannot even get every single person to agree that the sun rises in the east or the sky is blue. You have a petulant child's worldview.
  - AYBABTME 3y ago
    The system is designed in this way though. If it wasn't meant to be a two step process, which allows a new party to make a different (painful) decision later on, then it wouldn't have been designed this way. There's a big problem with US debt these days. I'm not sure the Republican's gimmick today is the appropriate solution, but something has to be done, or this will be the undoing of the US. Increase income, reduce spending, there's not many ways to go about it. And you need to do both. Unless you just plan on devaluing the currency, which isn't going to last long with the nascent tug of war in reserve currency status being mounted by China. The US is very vulnerable right now and most people aren't willing to swallow the hard medicine required. The undoing of previous prominent powers historically came in similar fashions. More tax, reduced spending. Harder work.
    - ROTMetro 3y ago
      No, the system is not designed to be a two step process. The debt ceiling was created to give authority to Treasury to issue debt to X limit so that Congress did not need to approve every single bond (think of it as a way to keep the separation of powers yet also run government debt in the more efficient manner needed in the modern world versus when the United States had 2.5 million people). It was not created as a Sword of Damocles. It was purely for administrative purposes not to replace actual budgets being created by a clearly incompetent Congress and horrible political class.
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bequanna 3y ago

Anarchy? Not sure I follow. I’m simply saying that you need to compromise with me or I’m willing to take action that will hurt both of us.

clipsy 3y ago
If the government was obligated to get approval from every single person for every single decision there would be no government; you cannot even get every single person to agree that the sun rises in the east or the sky is blue. You have a petulant child's worldview.
- AYBABTME 3y ago
  The system is designed in this way though. If it wasn't meant to be a two step process, which allows a new party to make a different (painful) decision later on, then it wouldn't have been designed this way. There's a big problem with US debt these days. I'm not sure the Republican's gimmick today is the appropriate solution, but something has to be done, or this will be the undoing of the US. Increase income, reduce spending, there's not many ways to go about it. And you need to do both. Unless you just plan on devaluing the currency, which isn't going to last long with the nascent tug of war in reserve currency status being mounted by China. The US is very vulnerable right now and most people aren't willing to swallow the hard medicine required. The undoing of previous prominent powers historically came in similar fashions. More tax, reduced spending. Harder work.
  - ROTMetro 3y ago
    No, the system is not designed to be a two step process. The debt ceiling was created to give authority to Treasury to issue debt to X limit so that Congress did not need to approve every single bond (think of it as a way to keep the separation of powers yet also run government debt in the more efficient manner needed in the modern world versus when the United States had 2.5 million people). It was not created as a Sword of Damocles. It was purely for administrative purposes not to replace actual budgets being created by a clearly incompetent Congress and horrible political class.
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