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So.... which will come first, "the year of IPv6" or "the year of linux desktop"? :)

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api 3y ago
IPv6 is waiting on stubborn cloud networks and CDNs. Most of the edge now has it. My guess is that it’s mostly reluctance to introduce complexity when most customers are not asking for it. The biggest holdouts seem to be connected to Microsoft, with GitHub being one of the most relevant. The Linux desktop will arrive if we just wait for Microsoft to keep making Windows worse. Linux doesn’t have to get better. MS just needs to incorporate more ads.
- jasode 3y ago
  >IPv6 is waiting on stubborn cloud networks and CDNs. Most of the edge now has it. Depends on the ISP. E.g. a lot of Verizon/Frontier FiOS residential customers don't have IPv6. Google statistics say USA is ~47% IPv6. Frontier FiOS is less % than that. Example recent thread: https://old.reddit.com/r/frontierfios/comments/v9azjj/june_2022_will_frontier_fios_ever_offer_ipv6/ https://old.reddit.com/r/frontierfios/comments/v9azjj/june_2... Google's statistics: https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html#tab=per-country-ipv6-adoption https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html#tab=per-...
leansensei 3y ago
I know you are joking but I don't get the longevity of this joke. I've been running Debian with XFCE for more than 12 years, on PCs custom-built and branded, and on laptops both of enterprise quality and retail junk. Heck, our entire B2B commerce business runs the same setup, with far fewer (read: zero) issues compared to when we were using Windows 98, 98SE, XP SP3, 7, Vista, and 10, at which point we declined Microsoft's telemetry and ads and forced OneDrive shenanigans and promptly switched everyone to Debian+XFCE. 99.9% of the time, modern Linux works out of the box everytime. So I'd say it's on par with Windows versions, except I practically never need to download install drivers, or to face ads. Maybe I'm on a different planet on which the year of the Linux desktop has arrived for longer than a decade.
- fsflover 3y ago
  This. I guess one of the main obstacles for the general Linux adoption is the lack of hardware with it preinstalled in the ordinary stores.
School-Cotton 3y ago
The year of IPv6 is already here, my home is already on IPv6 as is my mobile provider. Normal ISP and mobile provider in New York, not anything particularly geeky. From Google you can see that IPv6 usage is around 40% now and steadily increasing: https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html

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api 3y ago

IPv6 is waiting on stubborn cloud networks and CDNs. Most of the edge now has it. My guess is that it’s mostly reluctance to introduce complexity when most customers are not asking for it. The biggest holdouts seem to be connected to Microsoft, with GitHub being one of the most relevant. The Linux desktop will arrive if we just wait for Microsoft to keep making Windows worse. Linux doesn’t have to get better. MS just needs to incorporate more ads.

jasode 3y ago
>IPv6 is waiting on stubborn cloud networks and CDNs. Most of the edge now has it. Depends on the ISP. E.g. a lot of Verizon/Frontier FiOS residential customers don't have IPv6. Google statistics say USA is ~47% IPv6. Frontier FiOS is less % than that. Example recent thread: https://old.reddit.com/r/frontierfios/comments/v9azjj/june_2022_will_frontier_fios_ever_offer_ipv6/ https://old.reddit.com/r/frontierfios/comments/v9azjj/june_2... Google's statistics: https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html#tab=per-country-ipv6-adoption https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html#tab=per-...

leansensei 3y ago

I know you are joking but I don't get the longevity of this joke. I've been running Debian with XFCE for more than 12 years, on PCs custom-built and branded, and on laptops both of enterprise quality and retail junk. Heck, our entire B2B commerce business runs the same setup, with far fewer (read: zero) issues compared to when we were using Windows 98, 98SE, XP SP3, 7, Vista, and 10, at which point we declined Microsoft's telemetry and ads and forced OneDrive shenanigans and promptly switched everyone to Debian+XFCE. 99.9% of the time, modern Linux works out of the box everytime. So I'd say it's on par with Windows versions, except I practically never need to download install drivers, or to face ads. Maybe I'm on a different planet on which the year of the Linux desktop has arrived for longer than a decade.

fsflover 3y ago
This. I guess one of the main obstacles for the general Linux adoption is the lack of hardware with it preinstalled in the ordinary stores.

School-Cotton 3y ago

The year of IPv6 is already here, my home is already on IPv6 as is my mobile provider. Normal ISP and mobile provider in New York, not anything particularly geeky. From Google you can see that IPv6 usage is around 40% now and steadily increasing: https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html