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Fairbuds XL review: noise-cancelling headphones you can fix
- artogahr 3y agoThey look cool and I would love to be able to buy one but the sustainability tax seems too high to be a successful product to me.
- ealhad 3y agoIt's not a "sustainability tax", it's "acknowledging people are not slaves nor are resources infinite"
- willcipriano 3y ago"Markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent” It may not make sense to repair for many consumers. In a few years we might have better codecs or similar and you'll want to upgrade your crusty headphones anyway.
- rstat1 3y ago>>In a few years we might have better codecs This sounds like something could be done with a firmware update.
- ealhad 3y agoOr the speakers themselves, eventually
- lozenge 3y agoNope, for latency and battery reasons this would be done by a specific chip, e.g. https://www.icstation.com/audio-module-bluetooth-compatible-receiver-universal-audio-module-p-12506.html https://www.icstation.com/audio-module-bluetooth-compatible-... / https://www.tinyosshop.com/ts8670 https://www.tinyosshop.com/ts8670 The same's true on the smartphone transmitter side.
- rstat1 3y agoThat 2nd link you shared, has 3 links under "Documentation" to firmware downloads.
- roughly 3y ago> "Markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent” I notice every time the cost of a properly sustainable product comes up, the conversation always turns to what a short-sighted bastard everyone else is, and I can only assume the people who make that argument are already making moral choices themselves, which is honestly just heartwarming to see.
- Kuinox 3y agoWH-1000XM5 => $400 Bose QC45 => $279 Fairbuds XL => 249€ ($272 if I convert right now) It's cheaper than two of the most popular headphones, how is there a "too high sustainability tax" ?!?
- manmal 3y agoI can really recommend the WH-1000XM5 btw. They are quite light and work surprisingly well even with iDevices. I tried to call my dad while I mowed the lawn (electric mower, but pretty loud one) and he understood me well. Audio pass through sounds like the real thing, I’d just like to be able to turn it louder.
- Kuinox 3y agoThat's a change then because the WH-1000XM3 microphone is really crap.
- mh- 3y agortings.com describe the recording quality as pretty bad still on the XM5[0], but with markedly better mic noise suppression than the XM3[1]. (These are the most objective measurements I'm aware of.) [0]: https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/sony/wh-1000xm5-wireless#test_377 https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/sony/wh-1000xm5-wi... [1]: https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/sony/wh-1000xm3-wireless#test_377 https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/sony/wh-1000xm3-wi...
- manmal 3y agoThe XM5 have 8 microphones, that’s one of the major improvements over previous versions.
- nickserv 3y agoNC headphones typically have multiple microphones, the more there are, the better the NC can be. This is because the first part of NC is detecting ambient noise, the second being generating soundwaves to cancel out what's picked up by the mics. With more mics it's possible to get more accurate NC, especially for directional sounds. However more mics won't necessarily mean better call quality, they may not even be used at all for voice. For example my Jabra NC pair has really good microphone quality for calls, this is done by having a dedicated boom microphone, in this case nothing to do with the multiple NC microphones.
- usrusr 3y agoWireless headphones are essentially streetwear. Making their product too cheap would be an unforgivable mistake in that market.
- nickserv 3y agoI use mine for remote work, they are so expensive I actually avoid wearing them outside as much as possible.
- npteljes 3y agoI agree, and this is why I believe that issues like this can only be fixed with regulation. Markets not only can't solve them, they actually reward exploitation. It's way more efficient from a product standpoint, and the only thing that's needed to quell the public response is just to remove the abuse far enough from them, so that no real feedback loop can form.
- CoastalCoder 3y agoThese look really interesting. I'm curious if there are plans to sell these to American customers. Right now (IIUC) their website only ships to EU countries.
- kitsunesoba 3y agoI really hope they manage US availability some time soon. The FairPhone seems like it'd be a really good Android app dev test device, representing the average Android device well, being repairable (when the battery inevitably dies due to being plugged in frequently), and I would imagine being more friendly to third-party Android distros once official OS updates stop being provided.
- somesortofthing 3y agoI'm in the same boat. I got all the way to the checkout page before realizing that they won't ship to the US. Seriously considering buying these and asking a friend in the EU to ship them to me in hopes of them making spare parts available in the US before I break anything. Probably won't do it, but I've been waiting for years for a pair of bluetooth headphones that I don't have to constantly worry about breaking.
- handwarmers 3y agoI have been fixing my Bose QC 45 for many years too
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- m-axiom 3y agoQc45 were released on April 4th 2022
- progbits 3y agoMaybe OP meant 35. I have those since they came out (2016) and they are still going strong with daily use. I've replaced the earpads once for about $15 in parts. Battery life is reduced of course but not by much and I plan to replace those too. Whenever they break this looks like a good replacement.
- handwarmers 3y agoSame here. Also got a wire that i use most of the time when i am in the office so i don’t even notice the battery life degradation
- r00fus 3y agoHave QC45s. Bought in Jan, microphone died in Mar, took all of 2 weeks to replace (door to door) and I’m still using but wary of them now. Would have bought FairbudsXL instead as it’s not clear that the QC45s have any benefit over them
- handwarmers 3y agoSorry, meant 35. I had to lookup which model looked like mine and got confused
- fnord77 3y agoQC45 have been out for only 1.5 years
- Throw73849 3y ago>Weight: 330g That is like Apple AirPods, those are very heavy and extended wear gets you tired. And most over-ear headphones are already pretty fixable. Most brands provide spare parts for like 20 years.
- ChuckNorris89 3y ago>That is like Apple AirPods, those are very heavy and extended wear gets you tired. Then maybe Fairbuds should charge 600$ to sweeten the deal.
- jasonlotito 3y ago> And most over-ear headphones are already pretty fixable. Most brands provide spare parts for like 20 years. Please, point me to the bluetooth/wireless noise-cancelling over-ear headphones that are pretty fixable at a level comparable to that of the Fairbuds here? Note, it must meat ALL the criteria I listed. Missing anything makes answer worthless. e.g. If it offers everything except for bluetooth or noise-cancelling means it's worthless in this context, and cannot be considered.
- dghlsakjg 3y agoBose has repair service. It isn't self-service, so it depends if your goal is throwing less shit away, or being able to service your own devices.
- Tijdreiziger 3y ago‘Repair service’ often just means they’ll throw it away for you and ship you a new one.
- dghlsakjg 3y agoI think it depends a lot on the product. Their aviation headsets and other non-consumer audio equipment gets repaired for sure
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- dghlsakjg 3y agoI’ve got a set of 6 year old $60 taotronics headphones that I just replaced the earpads on. Took 5 minutes and they use generic earpads available from AE or Amazon. The battery is soldered in, but is a generic lipo foil pouch accesible behind a screwed together earcup so I won’t need to find a specific form factor or break any glued together stuff to get at it. I don’t see this product as more “repairable” than other products. I do see that it has a lot of modules that are designed to be thrown away and replaced easily without throwing away unaffected parts. Repairable? Not in the strictest sense. I don’t see schematics and board layouts for repair people. Are all components 0805 or bigger so a blown capacitor can be easily replaced? No way to know, because they haven’t published how you would go about actually diagnosing and repairing failed components instead of tossing and replacing the module they are housed in. Honestly, for the price you might as well just pick up a nice set from a company like Bose that has a service and repair department, and a demonstrated commitment to longevity and quality.
- dry_soup 3y agoThe classic first reply to the Show HN: Dropbox thread lives on in this comment https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8863 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8863
- dang 3y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29178442 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29178442
- lozenge 3y agoDo you think Bose actually repair anything? I always assumed they just replace it and recycle/destroy the old one.
- mh- 3y agoI would assume they act similarly to Apple: quickly send you a refurbished replacement, and then go refurbish the one you sent in. For the small percentage of devices they receive that aren't able to be refurbished, they recycle/destroy.
- badpun 3y agoDoes anyone know a test where they actually measured how well the noise cancelling does, compared to Sony and Bose flagships?
- MivLives 3y agoI hope they do a true wireless earbuds set. Those tend to need repairing much more frequently.
- dghlsakjg 3y agoThey already have a TWS set. Not repairable sadly https://shop.fairphone.com/en/true-wireless-stereo-earbuds https://shop.fairphone.com/en/true-wireless-stereo-earbuds
- martin_a 3y agoThey already have those: https://shop.fairphone.com/de/accessories/true-wireless-stereo-earbuds https://shop.fairphone.com/de/accessories/true-wireless-ster... While I don't see spare parts for those, they claim to be "100% electronic waste neutral". Probably much harder/impossible to repair due to the form factor though, not sure.
- MivLives 3y agoThey have a 1/10 from iFixit on the repairability score.
- CameronNemo 3y agoAre there wireless eaebuds with a better score? I imagine the form factor is quite limiting.
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- Aachen 3y agoNot their only goal btw. Besides repairability, they also source from sustainable mines/suppliers (so far as reasonably possible, given that virtually nobody else creates demand for such a thing) with normal wages and such. And recycling is a thing but I'm less read up on what they do there. I still agree that they made a product nobody asked for just so they could get rid of the 3.5mm jack in their latest smartphone, until today that is (first time I see someone ask for fair earbuds!), but I do want to give them credit for their overall mission beyond just repairability.
- JonathanBeuys 3y agoWhat are the best noise cancelling headphones to work in cafes? Im using Bose Quiet Comfort II and I always wish they would cancel better.
- Uvix 3y agoNoise cancelling only really works for constant sounds (like airplane engines), not for background music/chatter.
- bigfudge 3y agoThe Sony ones worked quite well for that when I tried them. Was genuinely impressed
- LegitShady 3y agoYou're right that it works best for that, but headsets with good noise cancelling tend to have good isolation and the noise cancelling does do some work to suppress other sounds.
- Aachen 3y agoWhy is that btw? When I first heard of noise cancelling a few years ago, I figured electrons travel faster than sound waves (by a few orders of magnitude), so they'd just have a mic on the outside and speakers on the inside, amplifier in between and connect plus and minus the wrong way around to create an inverse signal. No chips with delay needed, just an analog signal going directly from mic to speaker. Shouldn't that cancel literally all sound? Apparently they, instead, all use some software solution that mainly works for constant noises. I don't understand why
- LegitShady 3y agothe sound travels through the air, hits the microphone, gets transmitted to a cpu that creates an inverse signal, and is then transmitted to your ears. No matter what the cancellation signal is always later than received sound. The received sound arrives first. noises that don't change much have the most similarity between the sound from a couple milliseconds ago to the sound now, and so are most effective. But I will say my sony wf-1000xm3 do seem to do a pretty decent job muffling most noises.
- pulvinar 3y agoAnyone know if these are prone to creaking? I've had to give up on otherwise great headphones because they developed a loud plastic-friction creak which I had no luck repairing. My Sennheiser HD4.50 so far seems immune to that, though has some drawbacks.
- metadat 3y agoWhat did you try to resolve the issue? I immediately thought lubrication might help. But if the culprit is plastic weakening over time, R.I.P.
- pulvinar 3y agoI don't remember exactly now, but I seem to remember trying different lubricants and no lubricant, but nothing worked. It was in the plastic-plastic hinges inside the cups.
- RobotToaster 3y agoI like the idea, but they look a little big to be called "buds".
- CameronNemo 3y agoFairphones would have been too confusing :p
- mh- 3y agoFaircans, perhaps. I also expected them to be in-ear when I clicked.
- codeulike 3y agoHeadfairns
- philipov 3y agoWe have a winner!
- NoboruWataya 3y agoAs did I, particularly because Fairphone do actually offer in-ear earbuds: https://shop.fairphone.com/en/true-wireless-stereo-earbuds https://shop.fairphone.com/en/true-wireless-stereo-earbuds
- alexvoda 3y agoAlso, maybe the company should rename from FairPhone to Fair or FairTech.
- oreilles 3y agoFearphones
- smoldesu 3y agoFairpods Max?
- sargun 3y agoI used to swear by V-Moda for portable headphones. They were highly repairable (you could replace the pads, band, cables, and even the driver if you really wanted). That was, until their Bluetooth enabled line. It had no parts available, and even at that was non trivial to fix with 3rd party parts. These days, I love my beyerdynamic headphones. I've replaced the drivers, cables, pads, etc over their 10 year life. Only recently have I retired my first pair because of an upgrade. That being said, there's no Bluetooth / wireless, but I'm largely okay with that. If I really needed it, I'd be fine with an external module that hooks up to the cable.
- mgsloan2 3y agoSame path for me, I like the v-moda headphones a lot, but the hinge mechanism is way too fragile, and the charge port broke, so the bluetooth pair was my last v-moda headphone. I also switched to beyerdynamic and have been very happy with them. Only downside of this durability is that they are not foldable - would be great to have headphones with a high durability folding mechanism
- Arch-TK 3y agoI have to ask, as I have never bought active headphones, all my headphones are user servicable already. I've even had to repair the soldering joints on my M40x once. The cables are all removable. The pads are easily replacable. Are active headphones really that much harder to service? There's no space constraints to warrant glue, clips and ultrasonic welding instead of screws.
- kubectl_h 3y agoI have replaced the pads on my Bose QuietComfort 35s 3 times in the last 6 years of wearing them almost daily. It's pretty easy to do. Beyond that they've just worked, even though I've dropped them a bunch of times. Still have excellent battery life. One of the best products I've purchased in last decade.
- ziml77 3y agoPads should be easily replaceable on all headphones. They are the part that wears out the fastest.
- calvinmorrison 3y agoalso hve quiet comforts. battery is still great, did replace the pads again recently. Only downsite is I broke the hinge so the ear was not connected to the loop and the parts didn't seem available. I used some small rivets and a piece of copper... back in action.
- sph 3y ago> One of the best products I've purchased in last decade. Agreed. I have gone through two dozen IEM and over ear headphones in two decades, and the BOSE QC35 II are the best I have ever used. Worth every penny. Wanna know what's funny? Everybody loves to hate on BOSE, but they are consistently better than any other brand I've ever bought. Their sound quality might not be great, but they make up for it with comfort, practicality and sturdier than any other brand in that price range. I use some Beyerdynamics DT880 on my desktop, they are somehow worse than the QC35. Tinny highs than need EQ, too shallow so my very delicate ears rest on the internal hard mesh and they hurt after a few hours. They do not spark joy.
- v3x3366 3y agoI certainly appreciate this idea. My WH-1000XM4s developed an issue where the NC has a feedback loop that sends a deafening shriek as soon as you place them on your ears and it lasts until you turn off the NC. I have to go through this (quite embarrassing in public) ordeal every time I turn them on. I'd just upgrade if they weren't so absurdly expensive in the first place.
- sircastor 3y agoDo you think this is a hardware or a software problem? I have these headphones myself, and I really like them. This sounds awful. I had to do a factory reset on them recently because they stopped connecting to one of my devices.
- roland35 3y agoI have a similar issue with my airpod pros. I believe it is a microphone issue, especially since they work in non-noise cancelling mode just fine.
- millzlane 3y agoSame, I have airpod pro 2nd gens and if I lay down on a pillow a certain way I get a very loud squeal.
- v3x3366 3y agoDefinitely hardware, initially the problem was occasional but now happens every time. There are microphones inside the earcup (near the driver) that I believe are the issue
- headsupernova 3y agoMy 3s do this as well but it's quite intermittent
- zaptheimpaler 3y agoThose are basically just as repairable as the Fairbuds, and cleaning the insides has helped some people get rid of the feedback problem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnFetuJajfI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnFetuJajfI
- danielfoster 3y agoI like the concept of repairability, but these headphones are honestly quite boring. “Fair” cannot be the only selling point. Offer something interesting and compelling.
- musTY8 3y agoIt's good as a starting point though. It inspires similar ideas to hit the market and gives consumers a taste of sustainability.
- danielfoster 3y agoAbsolutely! I guess I am not the target market. I’ve had the same Bose headphones for four years and other than an easy earpad replacement, nothing has broken. I can’t imagine needing to replace the battery. This seems somewhat like a solution looking for a problem. Probably the price surcharge for these headphones would be better spent on right-to-repair lobbying or even spent at ifixit.
- dabluecaboose 3y agoThere's nothing more sustainable than keeping the product you already own!
- mgsloan2 3y agoI love this concept! When I got tired of replacing headphones in the past I got some beyerdynamic dt770 modded by jfunk.org. They are repairable and durable. Though they are not natively bluetooth, can use a short cable + qudelix 5k to make them wireless. No noise cancelling. Would be very nice to have durable / repairable noise cancelling headphones. These headphones from fairbuds look great overall, but I'm skeptical of the durability of the hinges.
- GiorgioG 3y agoI stopped reading at “Vegan Leather”. Can we call it what it is? Plastic.
- codeulike 3y agoWhy dont we call leather what it is - chemically treated skin Because we're allowed to put words to new uses Language is open-source
- duxup 3y agoI know what leather is. I’ve no idea what “vegan leather” is. Plastic, some sort of plant material, something else?
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- thfuran 3y agoYou can't charge nearly as much for "plastic" as for "vegan leather" though.
- duxup 3y agoIt’s funny how that works. I remember when fake leather was generally thought of as a bad thing, granted at times it could be really plastic like and brittle…. but at some point it clearly became both cheaper and really durable. I wouldn’t mind if it just said “plastic” or “imitation leather”. It’s not a bad thing to my ears. I’m remodeling my house and all the flooring I’m looking at looks like wood…. but it is not wood and I like that.
- bornfreddy 3y agoIs the platic leather durable though? Aside from the cars interior, I haven't noticed one that lasted more than a few years. Headphones are especially annoying in that the covers start falling apart long before other parts break.
- duxup 3y ago> €249 It would be interesting to know if t would be viable to make these for the lower end market…. Or would consumers just replace them anyway?
- Aachen 3y agoOwner of a 50€ Bluetooth headphones pair, bought 10 years ago. Had to resolder a connector, and the head strap got cracked while in my backpack but works good as new again after wrapping a single piece of tape around the broken spot ~five years ago. Kinda waiting for something unrepairable to die so I can finally get headphones that can pair with more than one device at a time. New fabric would also be nice, I'd love if that were sold separately. Now that I've got a USB-C smartphone (had to say goodbye to micro two years ago and, with that, being able to use literally every charger in the house), having C on headphones would be nice as well. Feels like a waste to just throw a working product away, so I haven't so far. It's not at all in a sellable state.
- duxup 3y agoI also have replaced the earpieces on my inexpensive headphones multiple times.
- fareesh 3y agoOne of the problems with headphones is that the cups tend to deteriorate over time - maybe sweat or the oil from the skin or something reacts with it and it starts to peel. After a few years, the cups are no longer available for that model and so you end up having to buy a new one.
- Aachen 3y agoI haven't had that issue, but if you know that you do, in this case you can buy the cups separately. After trying it out for a few weeks or months to make sure it's a keeper, just order another pair of cups? I got the impression that they've had phone parts in stock for a very long time, but of course that's relative to the average phone age and I don't know how many years you'd be expecting. In this case, though, if you already know what you'll need ahead of time... that's a cheap thing to just keep in a drawer. Can't go out of stock if you already have them and thereby double the other parts' longevity.
- bornfreddy 3y agoCurious: do they degrade over time in drawer?
- Aachen 3y agoThe person speculated that it might be from skin oils, which would make sense to me more than natural degradation across the timespan of a few years of doing literally nothing to them. But yeah, I don't actually know.
- chefandy 3y agoHave you looked at 3rd party replacement pads? I've never seen a pair of headphones with removable pads that I couldn't get an aftermarket replacement for-- usually better quality than the factory ones. Big round ones, smaller ovular ones, memory foam, leather velour or whatever finishes... always managed to get something that fit. Just measured and looked for something close. They mostly seem to attach the same way. Most recently, for a discontinued Audio Technica set that did not match any of the standard AT pads, I got replacements from Wicked Cushions.
- xena 3y agoI really wish these were available in Canada.
- vegabook 3y agoYou've been able to fix Beyerdynamic DT770s forever, which is one reason why they're so popular with studios.
- squarefoot 3y agoThis, and not being BT, which is a no-no in studios for various reasons.
- nickserv 3y agoPretty different use though, and these are more complex having NC electronics and a rechargeable battery for wireless use.
- astrange 3y agoUnfortunately Beyerdynamics don't sound flat (they have a big treble peak which leads to a "sibilence" effect) so you'd want to EQ that out for them to be suitable studio monitors.
- Saris 3y agoNo frequency response testing? Mic response testing? Head pressure measurement? Kinda hard to take this seriously as a review when they don't even show anything about performance of the product.
- Veen 3y agoIt's a review in a general interest newspaper for the average headphone buyer. Almost no one who buys headphones knows what any of those things are.
- Saris 3y agoI get that but they didn't even compare to other common headphones, I'm not sure how this helps anyone buy them.
- hyperhopper 3y agoYou are on a site called Hacker News
- smoldesu 3y agoWe're on the site that mocks the guy who suggested a homemade alternative to Dropbox. People here are more product-focused than tech focused, generally.
- aziaziazi 3y agoWe’re on a site where people suggest homemade alternative to dropbox…
- paulryanrogers 3y agoThe AV niche is deep and has plenty of its own communities. HN has a technical audience spanning many niches, yet not all of us are familiar or interested in the finer points of AV hardware.
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- userbinator 3y agoI see the point of the "fair" and "repairable" advertising for smartphones that usually have far more proprietary and limited-production parts, but headphones aren't exactly in the same situation. Almost all parts of them are already widely available, so much that you can easily make your own: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32375128 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32375128
- nixpulvis 3y agoNot buds; disappointed.
- gizmo 3y agoThe "sustainable" and "environment friendly" choice for headphones are wired headphones that are built like a brick. A good pair will last basically forever. Of course that isn't the market these headphones are in, but that's also the problem. New bluetooth standard? New advances in noise-cancellation? You won't get them. Even if these headphones are great (which I doubt) they're still destined for the garbage heap. Wireless headphones last a couple of years, where wired headphones last decades. These products won't be the exception, and the marketing angle (fair! environmentally friendly! repairable!) annoys me.
- ChuckNorris89 3y agoNot everyone wants to go jogging or working out with wired headphones. They always rub on your skin or on your clothes (especially in winter with may thick layers) with the rubbing sound transferring in your ears as you move around, or worse, snag on something and keep tugging down on my head giving me a bad neck posture (when the cable is routed under my shirt/jaket). The freedom of TWS earbuds can spoil you for life. Why don't we make TWS manufacturers to build their shit with replaceable cells? Most have normal Varta lithium cells inside. Surely they can make them replaceable the same way they are on the AirTags? They would be a bit bulkier and have less water resistance but I don't go swimming with them and as long as there's no cables I'm happy to tolerate a bulkier size.
- paulryanrogers 3y agoI second this. After trying with many different kinds, it's just too big a hassle. Clips at strategic places can help, yet only work so long. Eventually something will snag and the headphones will break. Separate, wireless buds are significantly more comfortable.
- Gigachad 3y agoI use Airpods most of the time but wired headphones on my desktop because bluetooth is so broken on desktops. Going back to the wired headphones feels like wearing a leash tied to my desk. Want to just go grab a drink from the fridge but I have to mute myself, take them off, then undo it all when I come back.
- ilaksh 3y agoI like the little wired earbuds from Walmart that cost $5-10. If they wear out then you just replace them. The part that usually breaks for me on headphones is the connection from the cable to the actual speakers. So testing the wires one way or another fixes it temporarily which leads me to always contemplate trying to repair them but I don't know exactly where the connection problem is.
- userbinator 3y agoThe break is usually at the plug end or where the wires enter the housings. I've repaired many cheap earbuds by just cutting off and reterminating them.
- rpgbr 3y agoThere's a brand in Brazil, called Kuba[1], selling a self-repairable, upgradable headphones called Disco for a while now. Originally wired, they're releasing a Bluetooth version and old models are upgradable to the new wireless protocol (owners just need to buy the new Bluetooth arc). [1] https://kuba.audio/ https://kuba.audio/
- aziaziazi 3y agoAlso with mechanical bass equalizer ! Thanks for sharing.
- tastysandwich 3y agoA lot of wired headphones are built well, sound phenomenal, and have easily serviceable parts. Eg Sennheiser HD650/HD6XX, HD660, HD58X. The 650s are nearly 20 years old and can blow all your modern bluetooth headphones out of the water for sound quality. So what I do is just buy a bluetooth receiver (eg fiiO BRT3k, BRT5, etc) and clip them onto the side of my headphones. Voila! Bluetooth headphones that sound great and don't need to be thrown away in 5 years.
- astrange 3y agoNone of those have noise cancelling. Which mean they only sound good in situations where you don't need it.
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- goofymiron 3y agoAwesome! My current noise-cancelling headphones have lost their noise-cancelling ability and bluetooth connectivity due to the battery dying. Can only listen to music over a cable now. Would have loved to be able to replace the battery in my headphones and imho this should be the standard for all headphones/electronic devices