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The problem with YT is: - I start the video, an ad is shown within 30 secs. - I fast forward a few minutes, the SAME ad is shown again. - I jump to anywhere
by lofaszvanitt 3y ago
The problem with YT is:
- I start the video, an ad is shown within 30 secs.
- I fast forward a few minutes, the SAME ad is shown again.
- I jump to anywhere on the timeline, the SAME ad is shown again.
At least show me something that is relevant, like facebook does. The ads there reflect what I usually look for. On YT, none of the ads are relevant to me, ever.
It's just ridiculous.
- knorker 3y agoAt least for YT there's a solution: YT Premium. Sure, as other comments have said, it doesn't scale to all websites, but youtube isn't just any website.
- secondcoming 3y agoDoes YT Premium block the sponsored ad slots? Because if not, that's a pointless product.
- knorker 3y agoThat's fair. Because also probably the people the advertisers want to reach MOST are exactly the people who have the spare money (and willingness to spend it) to shell out for YT Premium. But yeah I'd pay to get rid of all the "this video is sponsored by brilliant/nordVPN/whatever". Sigh.
- Feuilles_Mortes 3y agoCheck out SponsorBlock
- eropple 3y agoYou mean embedded native stuff? No, but SponsorBlock does and I use both. YT Premium pays creators for YT views and the analytics don't appreciably differentiate whether you watched an ad or skipped it, so I'm pretty comfortable with the two. (The apps don't work with SponsorBlock and that does drag, but I mostly don't watch native-advertising videos on my TV so whatever.)
- lofaszvanitt 3y agoI'm not paying for anything until they remove the "this is the bubble we have prepared for you" recommendation algorithm. Plus I gladly watch ads, but not the same ads (do the companies pay triple if I watch the same ad from them I wonder) ever again.
- pbhjpbhj 3y agoRepitition reinforces the ads, just like in other 'learning', advertisers will always want us to retain their ads, I can't see the 'waterboard them with annoying ads' technique going away in any country that Capitalism manages to keep its talons embedded in.
- lofaszvanitt 3y agoYeah, but I will never put winter tires on my car, because it's useless where I live. So, maybe, the targeting was subpar. Also, repetition reinforces me to enable ublock again.
- Double_a_92 3y agoThe problem for me there is that those ads are usually complete garbage or outright scams. It's not for a real product that I could even buy.
- jacquesm 3y agoCheck out the 'Unhook' browser extension.
- knorker 3y agoYou can go directly to the subscriptions tab. Or hell, Youtube has an API; You can write your own frontend.
- cobbaut 3y ago> I'm not paying for anything until they remove the "this is the bubble we have prepared for you" recommendation algorithm. Indeed, and what bothers me most is that it is "one" bubble. I wish there was a selection of tags to choose what mood I am in. Sometimes I only want math and science suggestions, sometimes I want to watch 3Dprinting or FreeCAD video's and other times I just want to discover some music. But Youtube mixes these three different moods together (even though I never play music on Youtube in the morning, nor watch math video's in the late evening). Please Youtube, let me choose my current 'bubble'.
- blibble 3y agothis is only a short term solution as once enough people have YT premium they'll start adding ads in there too just like cable tv
- comprev 3y agoAnd more recently Netflix for their ad-supported lowest tier. Not sure if it has been rolled out yet though.
- herbst 3y agoAt least for YT there's a solution: YT Vanced Or other YouTube clients with ads disabled :) There is even a SmartTV YouTube App that works like a charm. It even skips as blocks in the video itself. Only casting then uses the original app with ads. Edit:// as long as I would need 2 premium accounts for all my active devices I don't accept that as a real solution
- michaelscott 3y agoVanced has essentially been disabled recently, unable to play anything. I don't know if YouTube is going on a murdering spree of everything that threatens ads on the platform.
- herbst 3y agoOn mobile it's annoying yes, but there is always a working solution around. On TV however the app "SmartTubeNext" seems to update faster than YouTube patches. (Afaik there are multiple Vanced clones like revanced in case you are using the original)
- michaelscott 3y agoIf you have a solution on mobile, please do DM me :) I've tried multiple workarounds and none of them seem to permanently fix the problem
- goosedragons 3y agoFirefox for Android + Ublock? Throw in Background Video fixer too.
- ThunderSizzle 3y agoThe only missing feature is casting at that point
- thalassophobia 3y ago
- rixrax 3y ago- Ads crank up the volume to 11. We were watching Eurovision singing contest the other day from YT and my gawd was that annoying. Adds in the middle of every song, volume being cranked up for the adds, and as a icing on the cake, probably due to bug somewhere, the playback went to pause after each ad (iPhone airplaying to AppleTV).
- MandieD 3y agoThat’s what TV (first, broadcast, and then, cable) was like in the 80s and 90s, and was a small part of why we jumped at internet video. For TV, there were devices that promised to automatically lower the volume when commercials came on - I don’t remember how they were supposed to work.
- waterhouse 3y agoI wonder if those devices simply looked at the volume and said, "If it's high [perhaps for a few seconds at a time], then it's probably an ad". Seems like a pretty good heuristic.
- yardie 3y agoI had one of those but it was built into our TV, a Magnavox. It relied on a small black frame that local broadcasters used to insert their ads. National broadcaster like NBC would stream to their local affiliates. And the stream would have blank spaces to an insert their own ads. It’s very fast ,0.1s, that your eye would see briefly but to smart enough electronics was very perceptible. Once the commercial block was detected volume goes down. And the subsequent black frame turns it back up.
- rzzzt 3y agoIt's a tiny algorithm listening to output volume and reacting to drastic changes via the VolUp/Dn buttons on your remote (figuratively): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_range_compression https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_range_compression "Night mode", if it is present, should also do this to a lesser extent. I am grateful for this feature in movies where light chit-chat is interrupted by window-shattering explosion sounds.
- Philip-J-Fry 3y agoYeah, I think Facebook has the better algorithms for knowing what I'm interested in. I use Instagram more than Facebook but quite a few times I've seen ads for things that have caught my attention. I've even bought something because of one. I've never bought anything by looking at a Google ad. They are almost always something I know about already. What good is an ad for something I know about?
- pbhjpbhj 3y agoThis is how brand advertising works, it's psychological 'trickery' to try and associate that brand with what people find positive, such associations influence us when we make buying choices or when we react to other people's buying choices. For many years I thought I was immune to such ads, but really I think we are all affected by them -- increased desire for 'things', with reduced happiness for anyone who can't or won't buy them.
- worrycue 3y ago> This is how brand advertising works, it's psychological 'trickery' to try and associate that brand with what people find positive, such associations influence us when we make buying choices or when we react to other people's buying choices. Not sure how cursing at highly repetitive ads that aren’t relevant to me is a considered “positive”.
- anthonypasq 3y agoeveryone on HN somehow thinks they are too smart for ads. get over yourself.
- worrycue 3y agoSo far YouTube's ads haven't convinced me to invest - much less invest with those advertised companies; frankly, I would probably go to my bank if I were to get into investing, I mean I already trust them with my money.
- geomark 3y agoI sometimes wonder if people who are buying ads ever watch YT and see how irrelevant the ads are. Seems like a big waste of advertising budget.
- meindnoch 3y agoSpaced repetition ;) It works, and they know it.
- lofaszvanitt 3y agoIt doesn't work for me, It just makes me hate the platform even more.
- culturestate 3y agoThe ad I most frequently get on YouTube - we’re talking three times per video, every other video - is for a shingles vaccine targeted at adults over 60. No amount of spaced repetition is going to make me, an adult decades under the age of 60, talk to my doctor about that shingles vaccine. This cannot possibly be a truly cost-efficient ad platform.
- mojo74 3y agoWhile it is irritating the frequency of them, personally I prefer ads that aren't relevant. I'll spend my money when I want and I don't like to be manipulated by an ad. Plus I like to feel that online marketers know as little about my preferences as possible and are wasting their advertising budget just showing me useless products and services. I'm looking at you Grammarly...
- numpad0 3y agoIt’s weird that I didn’t realize this for long. Chances are you are probably in market for presumably irrelevant products, it’s only that a lot of us don’t find those topics entertaining. I wouldn’t mind a nice representative calmly onboarding me with an exciting new middle eastern investment opportunities, I might even enjoy listening to those with a glass of tap water on one hand. That of course is because it is an extremely relevant topic to me /s
- iinnPP 3y agoExactly this. The only point i would add is the long ads that require an action to skip (30+ minutes). More recently I have also been getting clear scams as ads and no amount of reporting can get rid of them. These are the reasons I spent the time blocking the ads on all devices. Maybe Google should fix their ads to make them less awful instead of starting the death of Youtube.