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On a related note as someone who uses YouTube constantly YouTube Premium is absolutely worth it.
by wnevets 3y ago
On a related note as someone who uses YouTube constantly YouTube Premium is absolutely worth it.
- AzzieElbab 3y agoYeah. Subscribed as soon as my kid got old enough to use it
- quechimba 3y agoYeah, and YT Music is included too right? Because I have YT Music and no ads and it's really cheap compared to other services. I pay COP$17900 which is little less than USD$4. I used to pay around USD$10 for Spotify.
- wnevets 3y ago> Yeah, and YT Music is included too right? Correct and I believe YT Music pays much more per listen than Spotify to the artist.
- thematt 3y agoWhat makes it worth it? Isn't the experience the same as just running an ad-blocker?
- wnevets 3y agoI don't run an adblocker on my phone, YouTube Music is included and the creators still get paid.
- gentleman11 3y agoThe main reason they get paid is that their income is primarily from sponsorships and affiliate links now. Youtube premium doesn't block that, and it's a much more insidious kind of ad. It makes you think you're watching somebody being authentic, when really it's a business disguising itself as an authentic person that's trying to sell you things (whether out of bias or strategy)
- wnevets 3y agoI usually stick with known quantities and avoid any scummy looking channel. I have no problem watching the in video Gamer Nexus ads and don't expect paying for YouTube premium to skip those ads.
- nickthegreek 3y agoCreators get paid MORE per stream by a premium user than an ad free user.
- M4v3R 3y agoYou can watch on all of your devices, even the ones where setting up an ad-blocker is non trivial or impossible.
- porkbeer 3y agoIt is pretty trivial on every device I have used. Which ones are a challenge?
- daveoc64 3y agoHow about a smart TV, a streaming stick/box (e.g. Roku, Amazon Fire Stick), or a games console? Pi-hole will work for some types of ad on all devices, but I'm not sure how it'd work for video ads in an app like YouTube - particularly if Google started serving the ads from the same servers as the content.
- greenthrow 3y agoIn theory, but you actually help the creators you enjoy watching.
- myself248 3y agoI subscribe to their Patreons, thank you very much.
- gaius_baltar 3y agoYT Premium only makes the problem worse by requiring you to log in using an account that is tied to your real world identity and was used for payment processing. You just end up giving more data points to Google to track you, cross-reference with other sources and shove more ads in other platforms, still get native ads, and Google can just add their own ads later (as it is happening step by step with streaming companies).
- Psychlist 3y agoThe flip side s that you don't have to use Chrome+Google for everything. I buy ebooks and watch youtube on it, plus my phone (so I buy android apps via the same google account). And Gmail is my fallback email account so that doesn't see much traffic. I use 3-4 browsers and because WFH + VM's for coding some incidental sandboxing.
- lostgame 3y agoWell, my hubby’s iPad and our iPhones don’t support ad blocking on YouTube, nor does my Smart TV, so…ad blocking only works on 1/5 of my husband’s devices and my own would actually be effective with ad blocking, for one… (And before you say ‘just switch to Android’, I’m an iOS/WatchOS dev and a music producer for a living - if anything with the recent announcement of Logic on the iPad, I’ll be buying another iPads not reducing them…)
- mda 3y agoActually better, because I share it with my family and no one has to deal with installing / configuring adblockers on different platforms (mobile app, TV, laptops whatever) It also includes Music so together I think it is a pretty good deal. Prices in some countries are ridiculously cheap as well (<$2 monthly in India, Turkey) , but of course that could change in time. My only problem is the sponsored content in youtube videos, I would give some extra money to skip that crap as well.
- jacooper 3y agoMy main issue is the tracking, if youtube premium stopped the awful tracking i would be fine, but it doesn't.
- corvec 3y agoI had YouTube Family at $15/month until this month, when they raised the price to $23. I signed up back when Google Play Music was still a thing. I was never able to get into YouTube Music, though, so I don't actually use it to stream my music. The fact that my playlists are shared between YouTube and YouTube Music is enough for me to drop it from serious consideration as a music streaming service on its own. That, plus the lack of lossless streaming, inconsistent, clunky UI, and lack of any positive features that distinguish it from Spotify, Tidal, and Apple Music, is why I never used it for anything other than sharing songs with people who didn't use Tidal. That they apparently also include ads in the albums I transferred from Google Play Music - albums that I paid for - is just added insult. The main way I justified paying the subscription was that other people in my household got access to ad-free music streaming (and they actually used it, unlike me), Youtubers get comped more from me watching their videos, and I didn't have to worry about whole-home adblockers to remove ads from the app. But after a 50% price hike that takes it above the prices for Tidal Family ($15), Apple Music Family ($17), and Spotify Family ($16), it's not something I can justify anymore. (Youtube Music Family is $15, FWIW, but it doesn't include Youtube itself.)
- wnevets 3y ago> That, plus the lack of lossless streaming, inconsistent, clunky UI, and lack of any positive features that distinguish it from Spotify, Tidal, and Apple Music, is why I never used it for anything other than sharing songs with people who didn't use Tidal. The UX and performance of the YouTube Music web client is so much worse than the old Google Music web client. I used to be able to scroll my entire album collection without a hiccup on Google Music, that's now impossible with YouTube Music
- empyrrhicist 3y agoI'm still incredibly salty about this as well.
- gentleman11 3y agoI don't like paying a platform that rose to prominence because of piracy, just so that I can watch IP created by other people without youtube inserting a really intense number of ads into the experience. And all the vidoes are ads anyway, it's just via sponsorships and affiliate links now. It feels deeply icky
- jjice 3y ago> I don't like paying a platform that rose to prominence because of piracy Is that true? Yeah it's there, more so in the past, but I have to imagine that was a tiny amount of their viewership. I'd imagine most viewing is from individual channels of real people.
- systemtest 3y agoIs it possible to get YouTube Premium without a credit-card? That is what stopped me from subscribing before.
- KomoD 3y agoIf you don't pay with a card then what would you pay with?
- worewood 3y agoProbably gift cards like Play Store ones. In fact as it is all Google I think it already could be a thing
- KomoD 3y agoYeah I guess playstore and apple giftcards work
- candiodari 3y agoSomething that doesn't get Google to ban accounts? Blocking a payment to Google or doing a charge-back is involved in nearly all account closure complaints on this site. Btw: as someone who's worked in banks, I'd like to point out that there are circumstances where some banks will charge-back automatically (or outright "accept the payment", then not pay), if they suspect fraud for example.
- systemtest 3y agoLocal payment solutions like iDEAL, Bancontact, Prezelewy24, PayU, AliPay, Klarna or something like PayPal. Or through your mobile phone bill. Credit-cards are not that common here in Euro-land.
- KomoD 3y ago> Credit-cards are not that common here in Euro-land. But debit cards are, which also work, it's not just credit cards.
- deltree7 3y agoHN/Reddit : For years, "I'm happy to pay for services that has no/few ads". Companies: Here's a ad-free version. Subscribe HN/Reddit: Why are you asking me to subscribe? I hate this
- 23B1 3y agoExcept we paid for other streamers for an ad-free experience – until they started inserting ads again. Do we believe that Google of all companies won't pull a switcheroo in a few years? Not on my dime.
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- hatethissite42 3y agoit might work for you, but most people don't win from pretending that not watching ads is 'stealing' and are not going to go along with it lol
- ekianjo 3y agoillegally? is Google going to take us to court by blocking the ads? please mind the use of the word
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- 23B1 3y agoIf it is wisdom you seek, you're gonna have to close your laptop my friend!
- josephcsible 3y agoWhy is it unethical to do things just because a megacorp wrote a one-sided "agreement" not to?
- tensor 3y agoI use YouTube infrequently and I still find it worth it. I don't at all mind paying to get rid of ads. But if there is no option to pay, and you try to force ads, I'll choose not using your service instead. An ad-based service is not something I'm interested in.
- alwayslikethis 3y agoIt seems inferior to a combination of ublock origin and sponsorblock. Unlike using these two, you don't have the option of staying logged out while watching videos without being bombarded by ads.