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it is well known fact that most programmers are unprofessional
by stan_kirdey 3y ago
it is well known fact that most programmers are unprofessional
- luxuryballs 3y agoand often most professional when on psychoactive substances
- stan_kirdey 3y agoI am being sarcastic. Nobody even uses terms `programmer`, and I've never heard `professional programmer` in any engineering context. The title should state "Software Engineers ...`
- hxugufjfjf 3y agoI actually literally just heard the host of the Rust podcast Rustacean Station refer to himself as a professional programmer, and immediately realising how off that sounded, corrected it to «got paid to write code» or something of the sort.
- yamtaddle 3y agoI use it all the time. "Software engineer" is bullshitty industry jargon, I don't use it without people outside the industry. [EDIT] Not "professional", though, admittedly. Usually "computer programmer".
- OkayPhysicist 3y agoI like "Software Developer". What we do isn't anywhere close to engineering, but programmer feels a little constrained to just the coding aspect of the job.
- yamtaddle 3y agoYeah, I'll use that one sometimes, including with other software folks. I think it pretty much captures the whole thing. "Software engineer" I reserve for certain contexts in which I suspect I might be penalized for using another term. I don't think it's very accurate for like 99.5% of all "software engineer" jobs. Feels like using "sandwich artist" for "dude who works at Subway".
- filoleg 3y agoAh yes, as opposed to all those professional people in finance wearing suits doing cocaine on regular? Is it their choice of the drug that makes it more professional? And no, I am not speaking just based on stereotypes, I personally observed it happen with a significant frequency with friends working in the industry. And the fact that the big finance office building I've been to had a very bice lounge-like area with chairs, sofa, wardrobe+coat hangers, and a coffee table as you enter any bathroom didn't help that perception either. Side-tangent note: I want to clarify what i meant by "a pre-bathroom lounge-like area", because it indeed difficult to tell what i was talking about just based on the paragraph above. You walk through a hallway and see two bathroom doors (M and F), so far everything is very usual. You open one of the doors, and instead of a typical bathroom, you see the type of a lounge room I described above. Literally just a normal lounge relaxing room, with a coffee table, a few comfortable lounge chairs, a small sofa, etc. You also see another door inside this lounge room (in addition to the door you entered through from the hallway). And that door is where the actual regular public bathroom is, with a row of stalls, sinks, etc. So the lounge room basically acts as a buffer room between the hallway and the actual bathroom. Is it a thing at all big finance companies? I don't know, and I think probably not, so this shouldn't be treated as a concrete proof of anything. And I honestly believe that only a small minority utilizes that room for anything but its officially-intended purpose. But it is a bit telling. And no, I don't think this makes finance people as a group unprofessional (or even as individuals; that would depend on their actual behaviors and interactions at their workplace). Just like I don't think a significant number of people in tech being into various drugs makes them unprofessional as a group.
- readthenotes1 3y agoThat's how women's restrooms used to be where I worked long ago. No such lounge for the guys.
- filoleg 3y agoOh, that's interesting. For context, I am a guy and definitely went into the men's restroom in that anecdote above (so i cannot speak for the women's restroom in that same hallway). I just assumed they would make the same setups for both.