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HP is way worse than Dell. Fans at full speed I can handle. Servers permanently throwing errors because a part isn't HP branded, that's peak asshole design. So
by burnte 3y ago
HP is way worse than Dell. Fans at full speed I can handle. Servers permanently throwing errors because a part isn't HP branded, that's peak asshole design. So is refusing to measure status of drives if I use a third party drive sled (which is some folded metal, and some LEDs on a flex PCB) AND throwing errors about them.
- BizarroLand 3y agoLenovo soft bricks their workstations if they detect non-branded cards in them. No upgrading my wifi, thats a nono!
- throwway120385 3y agoThe wifi thing is slightly understandable because FCC requires you to limit your radiated emissions, and when you do the certification you have to control the entire configuration to pass the testing, which means that your radio is paired with your antenna cable and antenna in the body of the device. Allowing people to replace the radio without a paired antenna cable and antenna could cause radiated emissions to fall outside of the spectrum allowed by the FCC. It's dumb in practice but at least somewhat understandable in principle.
- josephcsible 3y agoIf you sell me something FCC-compliant and I modify it to make it noncompliant, isn't that entirely on me? Why do you need to try to stop me?
- BizarroLand 3y agoAnd not just stop you or refuse to activate the card, but to intentionally cause the hardware I purchased to irreparably malfunction as long as I attempt to use something you didn't sell me. Of course, I can use a USB wifi card, no problem. Just the convenient PCI card inside the system that is specifically designed to enable a wide variety of functions aside from wifi that is locked in the BIOS just in case I wanted to use a 3rd party card of a specification that you don't happen to sell.
- gymbeaux 3y agoI’ve never heard this explanation before and I don’t buy it. Transmission power is constant regardless of the antenna used.
- BizarroLand 3y agoYeah, it's 100% pure fresh from the ass BS. Lenovo did that to reduce their customer's ability to buy PC expansion devices from other manufacturers, in hopes of making more aftermarket sales in the future. It was a pure greed tactic.
- gymbeaux 3y agoIt used to be very common across all OEMs, at least in the consumer space. I remember having to flash a modded BIOS on my 2012 HP laptop so it would boot with a WiFi + BT card. Back in those days it was uncommon for a laptop to have BT.
- pxmpxm 3y agoHmm I've got an HP Z6 that doesn't seem to care? Are you sure this isn't a 1u rack will fry itself if you put a spaceheater type of thing inside of it?
- burnte 3y ago5u system, ML350Gen9. I ignore the errors, but of course that means that if a real error pops up there, I won't know. It's a lower-urgency server of my own so it's ok, but annoying as well in production. I see the Z6 is a workstation unit, they're going to be more flexible there.