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Hands up, who's using VR on a regular basis, and what for? (just out of curiosity)

by kleiba 3y ago

rft 3y ago
My usage of VR comes and goes over time, often based on some trigger like an update to a VR game or a friend pulling me into a new game. This also describes my usage of VR: gaming. I enjoy playing Beat Saber, Until You Fall and Pistol Whip. A friend pulled me into After The Fall for a bit and it was also great. I also tried other things, but gaming, and especially the first three games, are what I come back to at least semi-regularly. Hardware: Valve Index on a Linux desktop with RTX 3080
Cthulhu_ 3y ago
There was at least one person who did his day job as a software developer in VR, and has done for a long time. I couldn't do it myself, I have trouble reading anything in VR.
- rrdharan 3y ago
  You’re probably talking about this guy: https://medium.com/immersedteam/working-from-orbit-39bf95a6d385 https://medium.com/immersedteam/working-from-orbit-39bf95a6d... I read this every few months for a certain kind of amusement. I remain utterly unconvinced of any merits…
ohlookcake 3y ago
Using it 4 times a week with fitness apps for cardio. I prefer running but VR fitness is fantastic for when it's too cold to go out running
- qumpis 3y ago
  For what kinds of exercises? Does your headset support seeing your surroundings while you exercise, or do you do static sports (treadmill, indoor bicycle)?
  - yourusername 3y ago
    I'm not the OP but i play Thrill of the fight (boxing simulator). For anyone that thinks videogames can't be excercise i suggest you try to do 3 fights in a row on endurance in ToTF.
  - blensor 3y ago
    Mixed reality really can add value to the workout. I even prefer the open design of the Quest Pro over using it with the face guard
- blensor 3y ago
  same for me. Nearly daily for fitness. Although I do have a reason since we are developing our own game VRWorkout (hand tracking based full body exercises and mixed reality for safety), I still get a regular crowd of people joining me in our multiplayer workouts
phh 3y ago
I like it quite a lot for gaming as it's much more immersive than PC gaming (I don't have any other gaming console). I play both wire-free on Oculus Quest 2 itself, or (still wire-free) from a Windows VM with a RTX3070 pcie passthrough (so I can dynamically switch between ML and gaming usage). Immersive-ness doesn't only come from just the screen, but also from the fact that you can't multi-task (one could say this is a sad state of my attention). I play various kind of games. My main usage is "sport", with synthriders and beat saber. I love story telling/puzzle games, though they are quite costly (like 30€ for 4 hours of game play) so that doesn't account for a lot of play time. But I also like a small Cities Skyline (Cities: VR by the people from Cities Skyline), Deisim where you play a god, and Derail Valley, where you drive a train in a miniature world. As a software engineer I have tried using it for other stuff than gaming, but even though it feels cool, I never found it actually useful. I can keep the headset 4 hours (and probably the whole day) without any issue (assuming no frame drop, which do happen when running from Windows, not in the Quest environment), so that's not the issue. Maybe with a better display resolution it could be better, but honestly I doubt it. Just a word on the metaverse: I do think it can be pretty cool for socializing (Ready Player One is IMO not that far-fetched), though Meta's universe development still looks extremely primitive compared to everything else that exists. At this point, I think that a Meta Quest 3 with face emotion detection (and improved SoC and display compared to Quest 2), and let competing companies provide a good environment based on that hardware+OS (for instance Rec Room) would be pretty good, but I doubt that could follow Meta's bottom line.
- phh 3y ago
  An addition after seeing a sibling comment: It's more annoying to setup, but I also like playing Euro Truck Simulator 2 in VR with a 1080 wheel. As someone who doesn't have a driving license, that makes me see why some people like to drive to clear their mind.
- fauxpause_ 3y ago
  I find it pretty crazy to see the current state of VR and conclude Ready Player One is not far off. We are nowhere close.
  - 3y ago
ggambetta 3y ago
I have a Quest 2, which I use to play Pavlov Shack, on the Hagenau map, in Tank TDM mode, and nothing else.
dreen 3y ago
I use it for an occasional relaxing evening in a flight simulator, usually with a pop-in window with a tv show or another simpler game like chess.
- ChicagoBoy11 3y ago
  I am really hoping for micro-LED devices to reach the market soon. My favorite thing to do with my Vive Pro was night flights in flight simulator... then got an Index, which is far superior in every way, but the lack of deep, deep blacks just really doesn't make those night flights feel how they used to!
  - TylerE 3y ago
    I upgraded my TV recently to a high end OLED (Samsung S95B) and it's been a revelation. Watching good transfers in 4K of old black and white stuff is jawdropping. Truly filmic. Those inky blacks are a huge part of that (plus HDR, so you can have a few bright spots, like, say, streetlights, without all the midtones being crushed to gray.
Frost1x 3y ago
I think a lot more people use VR than they realize, the goal post just continually moves towards higher degrees of immersion. Most people use some map navigation system these days in their phones as well as all sorts of other info they access related to spatial information on their phones anymore. VR to many increasingly means full on HMDs, haptics, and full on sensory immersion. People tend to only use parts of these from sounds to visuals at a time because when used in conjunction, current degrees of shortcomings make the experiences less than ideal. I use a lot of VR aspects regularly in general data exploration, though I tend not to need so much in the form of HMD and stereoscopic rendering. Usually something semi-immersive visually gets me most of what I want. To me, the science and engineering for most the hardware just isn't there yet to make a fully enjoyable experience but I think that means we should continue pushing on those developments because someday they will be and highly immersive VR will be fantastic (and perhaps dystopian depending on how it's used).
- ceejayoz 3y ago
  > Most people use some map navigation system these days in their phones as well as all sorts of other info they access related to spatial information on their phones anymore. That's certainly cool, but I don't think most folks would call it VR. Not even 10-20 years ago.
bemmu 3y ago
Every other week to play a round of Echo VR, do VRChat and check out what’s new in the store (but then not buy anything as everything feels too expensive). Used to play almost every night when I got Cosmodread, but managed to complete it.
ChicagoBoy11 3y ago
I use it for sim racing just about every other day at home. It is, by far and away, the most compelling gaming experience I've ever had. Having race high-end karts before, it is closer to the "real" feeling than I could've ever imagined -- certainly not in terms of the danger and things like that, but with high-end peripherals the driving experience, sense of competition, and mental effort required mirror it perfectly. Truly a steal at many times the cost if that's your sort of thing. I also got my pilot's license a few years ago after developing a love of flying from the Microsoft Flight Sim 95 era and beyond. In VR, while I've never had the "full controls," in higher-end aircraft software I could very accurately (literally to just about 100%) recreate my IRL flights with the exception of the feel of the yoke and whatnot. Again, awesome gaming experience. Lastly, I've played quite a bit of poker in PokerstarsVR. The thing that surprises me the most about THOSE experiences is that this attempt to create a pretty simple and at first-glance unexciting experience in VR to me revealed just how incredible VR actually CAN be. Like, yes, I get the value-add that the videogame can have for something like flying an airliner or a formula car, but wouldn't you always rather play poker with your friends IRL? Well, to me, VR showed me that that answer is a resounding 'no.' IRL poker is slow (just from shuffling and dealing, to say nothing of folks fumbling with chips), if you play poker well you'll be sitting out a lot of hands, so that can get boring, etc. In VR, however, I could see many, many more hands/hr, I could pin a TV to the virtual room and watch whatever I wanted as I'm talking with folks all over the world, could engage in side-games with the person next to me if I wasn't in a hand, etc. Just... unbelievably compelling. It made me a believer that I could EASILY see how in the near future even if I had 8 friends at home who really wanted to play poker, that I'd rather have each of us reaching out for our personal VR devices to do that in rather than reaching for a deck of cards.
- mejutoco 3y ago
  Could you share what sim racing you prefer?
  - ChicagoBoy11 3y ago
    to me, it's hard to beat iRacing in terms of the quality of the matchmaking and sheer density of available heats. The fact that you constantly find elite level IRL drivers on it I think is a nice endorsement that the overall experience is pretty good. It certainly can leave you wanting in terms of visual niceties and things of the sort, but from a pure racing experience, I think it is hard to beat. Is expensive at first, though :-(
asynchronous 3y ago
Gaming, Half Life ALYX is the best experience I’ve had in a video game (using Index) hands down, across all my years of gaming.
andybak 3y ago
Yes. I work on https://openbrush.app/ https://openbrush.app/ almost every day. Currently building a realtime scripting API for it: https://docs.openbrush.app/alternate-and-experimental-builds/runtime-scripting https://docs.openbrush.app/alternate-and-experimental-builds...
vlunkr 3y ago
I was for gaming, but dropped off pretty hard after a couple of months and went back to other consoles. It's just my personal tastes, but there are tons of games I want to play that don't make me sick or require that I put something on my face (or a mechanical backpack now lol).
Arrath 3y ago
Several times a week for me, primarily Beat Saber and VTOL VR (the best flight sim out there, imo)

Hands up, who's using VR on a regular basis, and what for? (just out of curiosity)

by kleiba 3y ago

Hands up, who's using VR on a regular basis, and what for? (just out of curiosity)

rft 3y ago

My usage of VR comes and goes over time, often based on some trigger like an update to a VR game or a friend pulling me into a new game. This also describes my usage of VR: gaming. I enjoy playing Beat Saber, Until You Fall and Pistol Whip. A friend pulled me into After The Fall for a bit and it was also great. I also tried other things, but gaming, and especially the first three games, are what I come back to at least semi-regularly. Hardware: Valve Index on a Linux desktop with RTX 3080

Cthulhu_ 3y ago

There was at least one person who did his day job as a software developer in VR, and has done for a long time. I couldn't do it myself, I have trouble reading anything in VR.

rrdharan 3y ago
You’re probably talking about this guy: https://medium.com/immersedteam/working-from-orbit-39bf95a6d385 https://medium.com/immersedteam/working-from-orbit-39bf95a6d... I read this every few months for a certain kind of amusement. I remain utterly unconvinced of any merits…

ohlookcake 3y ago

Using it 4 times a week with fitness apps for cardio. I prefer running but VR fitness is fantastic for when it's too cold to go out running

qumpis 3y ago
For what kinds of exercises? Does your headset support seeing your surroundings while you exercise, or do you do static sports (treadmill, indoor bicycle)?
- yourusername 3y ago
  I'm not the OP but i play Thrill of the fight (boxing simulator). For anyone that thinks videogames can't be excercise i suggest you try to do 3 fights in a row on endurance in ToTF.
- blensor 3y ago
  Mixed reality really can add value to the workout. I even prefer the open design of the Quest Pro over using it with the face guard
blensor 3y ago
same for me. Nearly daily for fitness. Although I do have a reason since we are developing our own game VRWorkout (hand tracking based full body exercises and mixed reality for safety), I still get a regular crowd of people joining me in our multiplayer workouts

phh 3y ago

I like it quite a lot for gaming as it's much more immersive than PC gaming (I don't have any other gaming console). I play both wire-free on Oculus Quest 2 itself, or (still wire-free) from a Windows VM with a RTX3070 pcie passthrough (so I can dynamically switch between ML and gaming usage). Immersive-ness doesn't only come from just the screen, but also from the fact that you can't multi-task (one could say this is a sad state of my attention). I play various kind of games. My main usage is "sport", with synthriders and beat saber. I love story telling/puzzle games, though they are quite costly (like 30€ for 4 hours of game play) so that doesn't account for a lot of play time. But I also like a small Cities Skyline (Cities: VR by the people from Cities Skyline), Deisim where you play a god, and Derail Valley, where you drive a train in a miniature world. As a software engineer I have tried using it for other stuff than gaming, but even though it feels cool, I never found it actually useful. I can keep the headset 4 hours (and probably the whole day) without any issue (assuming no frame drop, which do happen when running from Windows, not in the Quest environment), so that's not the issue. Maybe with a better display resolution it could be better, but honestly I doubt it. Just a word on the metaverse: I do think it can be pretty cool for socializing (Ready Player One is IMO not that far-fetched), though Meta's universe development still looks extremely primitive compared to everything else that exists. At this point, I think that a Meta Quest 3 with face emotion detection (and improved SoC and display compared to Quest 2), and let competing companies provide a good environment based on that hardware+OS (for instance Rec Room) would be pretty good, but I doubt that could follow Meta's bottom line.

phh 3y ago
An addition after seeing a sibling comment: It's more annoying to setup, but I also like playing Euro Truck Simulator 2 in VR with a 1080 wheel. As someone who doesn't have a driving license, that makes me see why some people like to drive to clear their mind.
fauxpause_ 3y ago
I find it pretty crazy to see the current state of VR and conclude Ready Player One is not far off. We are nowhere close.
- 3y ago

ggambetta 3y ago

I have a Quest 2, which I use to play Pavlov Shack, on the Hagenau map, in Tank TDM mode, and nothing else.

dreen 3y ago

I use it for an occasional relaxing evening in a flight simulator, usually with a pop-in window with a tv show or another simpler game like chess.

ChicagoBoy11 3y ago
I am really hoping for micro-LED devices to reach the market soon. My favorite thing to do with my Vive Pro was night flights in flight simulator... then got an Index, which is far superior in every way, but the lack of deep, deep blacks just really doesn't make those night flights feel how they used to!
- TylerE 3y ago
  I upgraded my TV recently to a high end OLED (Samsung S95B) and it's been a revelation. Watching good transfers in 4K of old black and white stuff is jawdropping. Truly filmic. Those inky blacks are a huge part of that (plus HDR, so you can have a few bright spots, like, say, streetlights, without all the midtones being crushed to gray.

Frost1x 3y ago

I think a lot more people use VR than they realize, the goal post just continually moves towards higher degrees of immersion. Most people use some map navigation system these days in their phones as well as all sorts of other info they access related to spatial information on their phones anymore. VR to many increasingly means full on HMDs, haptics, and full on sensory immersion. People tend to only use parts of these from sounds to visuals at a time because when used in conjunction, current degrees of shortcomings make the experiences less than ideal. I use a lot of VR aspects regularly in general data exploration, though I tend not to need so much in the form of HMD and stereoscopic rendering. Usually something semi-immersive visually gets me most of what I want. To me, the science and engineering for most the hardware just isn't there yet to make a fully enjoyable experience but I think that means we should continue pushing on those developments because someday they will be and highly immersive VR will be fantastic (and perhaps dystopian depending on how it's used).

ceejayoz 3y ago
> Most people use some map navigation system these days in their phones as well as all sorts of other info they access related to spatial information on their phones anymore. That's certainly cool, but I don't think most folks would call it VR. Not even 10-20 years ago.

bemmu 3y ago

Every other week to play a round of Echo VR, do VRChat and check out what’s new in the store (but then not buy anything as everything feels too expensive). Used to play almost every night when I got Cosmodread, but managed to complete it.

ChicagoBoy11 3y ago

I use it for sim racing just about every other day at home. It is, by far and away, the most compelling gaming experience I've ever had. Having race high-end karts before, it is closer to the "real" feeling than I could've ever imagined -- certainly not in terms of the danger and things like that, but with high-end peripherals the driving experience, sense of competition, and mental effort required mirror it perfectly. Truly a steal at many times the cost if that's your sort of thing. I also got my pilot's license a few years ago after developing a love of flying from the Microsoft Flight Sim 95 era and beyond. In VR, while I've never had the "full controls," in higher-end aircraft software I could very accurately (literally to just about 100%) recreate my IRL flights with the exception of the feel of the yoke and whatnot. Again, awesome gaming experience. Lastly, I've played quite a bit of poker in PokerstarsVR. The thing that surprises me the most about THOSE experiences is that this attempt to create a pretty simple and at first-glance unexciting experience in VR to me revealed just how incredible VR actually CAN be. Like, yes, I get the value-add that the videogame can have for something like flying an airliner or a formula car, but wouldn't you always rather play poker with your friends IRL? Well, to me, VR showed me that that answer is a resounding 'no.' IRL poker is slow (just from shuffling and dealing, to say nothing of folks fumbling with chips), if you play poker well you'll be sitting out a lot of hands, so that can get boring, etc. In VR, however, I could see many, many more hands/hr, I could pin a TV to the virtual room and watch whatever I wanted as I'm talking with folks all over the world, could engage in side-games with the person next to me if I wasn't in a hand, etc. Just... unbelievably compelling. It made me a believer that I could EASILY see how in the near future even if I had 8 friends at home who really wanted to play poker, that I'd rather have each of us reaching out for our personal VR devices to do that in rather than reaching for a deck of cards.

mejutoco 3y ago
Could you share what sim racing you prefer?
- ChicagoBoy11 3y ago
  to me, it's hard to beat iRacing in terms of the quality of the matchmaking and sheer density of available heats. The fact that you constantly find elite level IRL drivers on it I think is a nice endorsement that the overall experience is pretty good. It certainly can leave you wanting in terms of visual niceties and things of the sort, but from a pure racing experience, I think it is hard to beat. Is expensive at first, though :-(

asynchronous 3y ago

Gaming, Half Life ALYX is the best experience I’ve had in a video game (using Index) hands down, across all my years of gaming.

andybak 3y ago

Yes. I work on https://openbrush.app/ https://openbrush.app/ almost every day. Currently building a realtime scripting API for it: https://docs.openbrush.app/alternate-and-experimental-builds/runtime-scripting https://docs.openbrush.app/alternate-and-experimental-builds...

vlunkr 3y ago

I was for gaming, but dropped off pretty hard after a couple of months and went back to other consoles. It's just my personal tastes, but there are tons of games I want to play that don't make me sick or require that I put something on my face (or a mechanical backpack now lol).

Arrath 3y ago

Several times a week for me, primarily Beat Saber and VTOL VR (the best flight sim out there, imo)