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Could you share your understanding please? I can't quite wrap my head around registering thanking as apologizing.

wccrawford 3y ago
The original post only talked about thanking the plants. The reply only talks about apologizing to the plants. Clearly the reply thinks that's the same thing here.
shagie 3y ago
From the original post: > One of the most profound memories I have from that school is of Ms. Susan teaching us to say "thank you" to the plants when we took a few of their leaves for the tea. We'd look at the plant, find some good leaves, pluck 'em off, and then say "thank you" and move to the next one And the response: > It's messed up for a school to get children to verbally apologize to plants. It implies that plants have feelings. The followup to that is about the confusion/"these are the same things" for thanking something being the same as apologizing for that same thing - that gratitude is the same as remorse. --- The difference is: > Thank you for the leaf that I will use for tea vs > I'm sorry that I'm picking your leaf for my own enjoyment The first example here is thanking (a plant) and the second example is apologizing for taking action implying feeling sorry for the harm caused to the plant.
- lukas099 3y ago
  Thea person you are responding to understood that; what they didn’t understand was what the person they were responding to had come to understand about part of the population from the person they were responding to conflating thanking with understanding. And, I think that was the hardest to understand thing I’ve ever said.
  - mejutoco 3y ago
    The person read thanking and registered apologizing. My hypothesis is because they see both as more or less equivalent, or a form of weakness.
    - tfourb 3y ago
      And if I may expand on this, if someone conflates thanking and apologizing and/or associates both with weakness, it has profound implications for how that person will behave within a society. It may (at least partly) explain why there is so little "instinctive" kindness towards other people, especially when these people are not part of your social circle or they are "abstract" (i.e. when they are featured in the media).

The original post only talked about thanking the plants. The reply only talks about apologizing to the plants. Clearly the reply thinks that's the same thing here.

shagie 3y ago

From the original post: > One of the most profound memories I have from that school is of Ms. Susan teaching us to say "thank you" to the plants when we took a few of their leaves for the tea. We'd look at the plant, find some good leaves, pluck 'em off, and then say "thank you" and move to the next one And the response: > It's messed up for a school to get children to verbally apologize to plants. It implies that plants have feelings. The followup to that is about the confusion/"these are the same things" for thanking something being the same as apologizing for that same thing - that gratitude is the same as remorse. --- The difference is: > Thank you for the leaf that I will use for tea vs > I'm sorry that I'm picking your leaf for my own enjoyment The first example here is thanking (a plant) and the second example is apologizing for taking action implying feeling sorry for the harm caused to the plant.

lukas099 3y ago
Thea person you are responding to understood that; what they didn’t understand was what the person they were responding to had come to understand about part of the population from the person they were responding to conflating thanking with understanding. And, I think that was the hardest to understand thing I’ve ever said.
- mejutoco 3y ago
  The person read thanking and registered apologizing. My hypothesis is because they see both as more or less equivalent, or a form of weakness.
  - tfourb 3y ago
    And if I may expand on this, if someone conflates thanking and apologizing and/or associates both with weakness, it has profound implications for how that person will behave within a society. It may (at least partly) explain why there is so little "instinctive" kindness towards other people, especially when these people are not part of your social circle or they are "abstract" (i.e. when they are featured in the media).