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“a Unity exec just shared that they rent a secondary apt in SF to make it easier to be in the office- maybe we should all just do this to make it easier to RTO?
by Cenk 3y ago
“a Unity exec just shared that they rent a secondary apt in SF to make it easier to be in the office- maybe we should all just do this to make it easier to RTO? This company has lost it. Completely out of touch.
Renting an apt in SF would cost me over half my gross mothly salary :( Probably 3/4 of my takehome at least”
I agree with her
- tyleo 3y agoI agree with the substance but I don’t agree with airing dirty laundry on Twitter. I’m not an exec but I’ve said things at work I regret. I’m sure many of us have. You just say a stupid thing here or there sometimes. It seems destructive to bring that all out publicly on Twitter.
- CydeWeys 3y agoSometimes you're willing to take a risk to help effect change. If everyone keeps their heads down and never fights back then things don't improve.
- tmpz22 3y agoIf everyone stayed externally silent on internal issues the world would be a much worse place.
- ncr100 3y agoThat oversimplifies this situation because an employer, regardless of it having outrageous work environment characteristics, has a responsibility to its employees. Like, in court. One employee is now terminated for having reasonably driven vitriol from random internet Twitter users to another, by name.
- tmpz22 3y agoTotally fair - life has nuance and its not clear cut moral high-ground to air all grievances on Twitter. > That oversimplifies this situation because an employer, regardless of it having outrageous work environment characteristics, has a responsibility to its employees. Like, in court. Butttttt I gotta say companies routinely violate said legal obligations and intentionally commit resources to continued abuse of said obligations - knowing individuals lack the resources to fight back or institute meaningful change through legal recourse without great cost.
- ncr100 3y ago> Butttttt I gotta say ... An I whole-heartedly agree with you. It's horrific when companies violate legal obligations, hoping to skate by undetected, making power-plays against their own employees. It's unethical. Here, to repeat, it seems the issue is simply the employee revealed personal information about a coworker. I feel critical, because the employee could have raised her "can't afford to live here" with someone in the company - requesting a pay raise, and then hypothetically gotten some REAL WHISTLEBLOWER DIRT if they responded with something like, "tough luck, poor-ie employ-ee lolzzz." But she did not, and the company did not, and she shamed her coworker (and being an exec should not mean you get publicly shamed IMO).
- techdragon 3y agoyeah… I can’t agree less… Twitter is basically “built on bitching” at this point… viewpoint A bitches about viewpoint B” (pick your own A and B) … customers bitch about companies… Stan’s bitch about people not getting the things they Stan for… and generally everyone is bitching about Twitter itself, doubly so since Elon first offered to buy it, triply so since he bought it, quadruply so now he’s actually running it as an active CEO.
- haswell 3y agoThat Twitter is built on people yelling at each other is not a good counterpoint against a claim that such yelling is destructive.
- jimmySixDOF 3y agoTiming is a thing and there are a huge number of complaints about Unity this week due to the layoffs. Her twitter feed is probably full of them and what she said is fairly tame in comparison to what is out there at the moment.
- ncr100 3y agoI defend the termination, based on what I read and have experienced on Twitter, today: The fired employee named the executive, on Twitter, in the same thread before being fired. And, Twitter, as you're all probably aware, can be a cesspool of under-moderated hate, lately. The company and executive should reasonably expect that the executive will receive a lot of hate from randos, due to the tweet thread. I suspect this tweet thread opens Unity Inc up to risk by funding, through keeping on the payroll, a person who, in turn, drives hatred and vitriol online to another one of its employees. So I imagine unity decided to put an end to this liability.
- Cenk 3y ago* She tweeted her first name
- ncr100 3y agoTrue. In my estimation, and having worked at Unity, Unity is not that big where a first name couldn't uniquely identify a female executive. So the risk is real.
- salawat 3y agoOh heavens. An executive being held accountable for the negative externalities their incessant nudging is trying to push on other employees? Unthinkable. That sort of accountability is only for those plebian workers.
- ncr100 3y ago> accountable ... negative externalities .. incessant .. plebian Yikes - as opposed to these hypothetical concerns, the employee neatly doxxed a coworker, and complained about an un-raised (as far as we know she did not ask for a cost-of-living-adjustment) internal grievance in a public forum. Reality is she behaved unethically, in my view.
- 3y ago
- throwaway2729 3y agoAn exec at the company Unity competes with said the same thing.