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> These soft drinks are often consumed in smaller quantities than water Incorrect for lots of people.

by dataangel 3y ago

226_ebro_treaty 3y ago
Yikes, considering I consume 2 L of Coke Zero every day almost...
- chillbill 3y ago
  This is seriously bad for your health and wallet.
  - 226_ebro_treaty 3y ago
    I was messed up before doing this to begin with, so, eh. I don't smoke or drink otherwise. Literally my only addiction.
  - spadros 3y ago
    I buy my 2Ls for $1 on sale. $30 a month for pop is very affordable. RE your health; the components of diet pop are some of the most studied and consumed chemicals and sweeteners on the planet. The worst thing it’ll do is possibly wear your tooth enamel. So, I’d say it’s fine for their health and wallet.
- teaearlgraycold 3y ago
  Excuse me but what the fuck?
  - crazygringo 3y ago
    Coke Zero is literally 99+% water. Some people like flavored/bubbly water over plain flat water. Some people do Perrier, some do LaCroix, some do Coke Zero. All of these are essentially nutritionally identical. Really just a question of whether you think the artificial sweetener has an adverse effect on your health, which in these quantities it doesn't seem to. And if you want caffeine -- the caffeine in a liter of Coke Zero is the same as a single cup of coffee, so this is the same as a fairly normal 2 cups of coffee per day.
    - lagniappe 3y ago
      that much dark stuff going through your kidneys to become clear can't be good.
      - crazygringo 3y ago
        That's not how the body works. And it's just caramel color.
        copperx 3y ago
        Not just caramel color. Phosporic acid, which is found in cola drinks and not sparkling water, creates kidney stones.
        crazygringo 3y ago
        But the effect is mainly in sugary drinks, not diet. In fact, a study found that diet cola decreased kidney stones, although not meaningfully, so it's probably zero effect at all [1]: > "There was a 23% higher risk of developing kidney stones in the highest category of consumption of sugar-sweetened cola compared with the lowest category" > "Artificially sweetened sodas were marginally associated with kidney stones, with an inverse relation for colas and a direct relation for noncolas." So no worries about your Coke Zero giving you kidney stones. The culprit seems to be the fructose, rather, which Coke Zero doesn't contain: > "Higher consumption of sugar-sweetened soda was associated with a higher incidence of kidney stones, which may be because of the fructose content. Fructose has been shown to increase the urinary excretion of calcium, oxalate, and uric acid, thus increasing the risk of stones." [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3731916/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3731916/
      - ed25519FUUU 3y ago
        Don’t many people drink 2 or even 3 cups of coffee a day?
  - acuozzo 3y ago
    This is not unusual in many parts of the USA, even for full-sugar Coke. Google "Mountain Dew Mouth".
  - yamtaddle 3y ago
    The large drink size at a major gas station chain around here is about 1.8 liters. It's a popular size. Some people may drink one over multiple days, but that's not the norm. And that's not the largest size any gas stations around here have. Some "medium" sodas at fast food joints are over a liter, these days. People who drink a lot of soda, in the US, really DRINK A LOT OF SODA. Consider also that it's been the norm for years, in the US, to have free refills on soda at restaurants (with waiters eagerly topping them off constantly) and that many fast food places have self-serve soda that's either explicitly or de facto unlimited refill, if you go inside to eat rather than using the drive-through.
    - chrisbolt 3y ago
      "Then there is a horrifying 512oz version that they call 'Child size'. How is this a child size soda?" "Well, it's roughly the size of a two year old child, if the child were liquefied."
  - YetAnotherNick 3y ago
    I know someone who substituted water for diet coke. He had no water for 6 months or so.
    - 226_ebro_treaty 3y ago
      I also drink like 1 liter of water daily at a minimum so... Whatever works best I guess?
- Semaphor 3y ago
  I consume about 4-5L when I’m having it with alcohol, but I also consume 6L and more of tap water a day.
- jader201 3y ago
  Not sure if you're serious or not, but in case you're unaware, there are a number of health problems[1] found from over-consumption of diet sodas (aside from anything this study has surfaced). [1] https://www.uclahealth.org/news/observational-studies-shed-light-on-diet-soda-consumption#:~:text=These%20include%20weight%20gain%2C%20disruptions,were%20identified%20in%20the%20research https://www.uclahealth.org/news/observational-studies-shed-l....
  - crazygringo 3y ago
    That article makes clear these potential risks come from observational studies, not controlled experiments. And if consumption of diet soda correlates with other things, for example an unhealthier diet in general that the person "compensates" for by only drinking diet soda, then it would show up in an observational study even though there's no cause-and-effect. But remember, diet soda is 99+% water. Really the only hypothetical problems with diet soda could be 1) artificial sweetener chemicals in the body triggering cancer or other ailments, and 2) artificial sweeteners triggering a glucose-like response triggering weight gain. But studies with rats indicate 1) shouldn't be an issue at anywhere near the concentrations in diet soda, and 2) seems rather far-fetched.
    - SV_BubbleTime 3y ago
      My man… you are arguing FOR drinking a 2L of soda a day. Take a step back, your reasons for why studies aren’t conclusive might be good, and I may not be able to refute them… but look at the ridiculousness of your position.
      - crazygringo 3y ago
        Diet soda, not sugary soda. It's not what I do personally but I also don't judge, because scientifically, it's basically just water. Do you have a problem with somebody drinking 2 cans' worth of LaCroix in the morning, 1 at lunch, 2 in the afternoon, and 1 at dinner? Why should that suddenly become "ridiculous" because an eyedropper amount of caramel color, caffeine, and artificial sweetener get added?
- jnwatson 3y ago
  It took me some effort to limit to 2L a day.
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> These soft drinks are often consumed in smaller quantities than water Incorrect for lots of people.

226_ebro_treaty 3y ago

Yikes, considering I consume 2 L of Coke Zero every day almost...

chillbill 3y ago
This is seriously bad for your health and wallet.
- 226_ebro_treaty 3y ago
  I was messed up before doing this to begin with, so, eh. I don't smoke or drink otherwise. Literally my only addiction.
- spadros 3y ago
  I buy my 2Ls for $1 on sale. $30 a month for pop is very affordable. RE your health; the components of diet pop are some of the most studied and consumed chemicals and sweeteners on the planet. The worst thing it’ll do is possibly wear your tooth enamel. So, I’d say it’s fine for their health and wallet.
teaearlgraycold 3y ago
Excuse me but what the fuck?
- crazygringo 3y ago
  Coke Zero is literally 99+% water. Some people like flavored/bubbly water over plain flat water. Some people do Perrier, some do LaCroix, some do Coke Zero. All of these are essentially nutritionally identical. Really just a question of whether you think the artificial sweetener has an adverse effect on your health, which in these quantities it doesn't seem to. And if you want caffeine -- the caffeine in a liter of Coke Zero is the same as a single cup of coffee, so this is the same as a fairly normal 2 cups of coffee per day.
  - lagniappe 3y ago
    that much dark stuff going through your kidneys to become clear can't be good.
    - crazygringo 3y ago
      That's not how the body works. And it's just caramel color.
      - copperx 3y ago
        Not just caramel color. Phosporic acid, which is found in cola drinks and not sparkling water, creates kidney stones.
        crazygringo 3y ago
        But the effect is mainly in sugary drinks, not diet. In fact, a study found that diet cola decreased kidney stones, although not meaningfully, so it's probably zero effect at all [1]: > "There was a 23% higher risk of developing kidney stones in the highest category of consumption of sugar-sweetened cola compared with the lowest category" > "Artificially sweetened sodas were marginally associated with kidney stones, with an inverse relation for colas and a direct relation for noncolas." So no worries about your Coke Zero giving you kidney stones. The culprit seems to be the fructose, rather, which Coke Zero doesn't contain: > "Higher consumption of sugar-sweetened soda was associated with a higher incidence of kidney stones, which may be because of the fructose content. Fructose has been shown to increase the urinary excretion of calcium, oxalate, and uric acid, thus increasing the risk of stones." [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3731916/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3731916/
    - ed25519FUUU 3y ago
      Don’t many people drink 2 or even 3 cups of coffee a day?
- acuozzo 3y ago
  This is not unusual in many parts of the USA, even for full-sugar Coke. Google "Mountain Dew Mouth".
- yamtaddle 3y ago
  The large drink size at a major gas station chain around here is about 1.8 liters. It's a popular size. Some people may drink one over multiple days, but that's not the norm. And that's not the largest size any gas stations around here have. Some "medium" sodas at fast food joints are over a liter, these days. People who drink a lot of soda, in the US, really DRINK A LOT OF SODA. Consider also that it's been the norm for years, in the US, to have free refills on soda at restaurants (with waiters eagerly topping them off constantly) and that many fast food places have self-serve soda that's either explicitly or de facto unlimited refill, if you go inside to eat rather than using the drive-through.
  - chrisbolt 3y ago
    "Then there is a horrifying 512oz version that they call 'Child size'. How is this a child size soda?" "Well, it's roughly the size of a two year old child, if the child were liquefied."
- YetAnotherNick 3y ago
  I know someone who substituted water for diet coke. He had no water for 6 months or so.
  - 226_ebro_treaty 3y ago
    I also drink like 1 liter of water daily at a minimum so... Whatever works best I guess?
Semaphor 3y ago
I consume about 4-5L when I’m having it with alcohol, but I also consume 6L and more of tap water a day.
jader201 3y ago
Not sure if you're serious or not, but in case you're unaware, there are a number of health problems[1] found from over-consumption of diet sodas (aside from anything this study has surfaced). [1] https://www.uclahealth.org/news/observational-studies-shed-light-on-diet-soda-consumption#:~:text=These%20include%20weight%20gain%2C%20disruptions,were%20identified%20in%20the%20research https://www.uclahealth.org/news/observational-studies-shed-l....
- crazygringo 3y ago
  That article makes clear these potential risks come from observational studies, not controlled experiments. And if consumption of diet soda correlates with other things, for example an unhealthier diet in general that the person "compensates" for by only drinking diet soda, then it would show up in an observational study even though there's no cause-and-effect. But remember, diet soda is 99+% water. Really the only hypothetical problems with diet soda could be 1) artificial sweetener chemicals in the body triggering cancer or other ailments, and 2) artificial sweeteners triggering a glucose-like response triggering weight gain. But studies with rats indicate 1) shouldn't be an issue at anywhere near the concentrations in diet soda, and 2) seems rather far-fetched.
  - SV_BubbleTime 3y ago
    My man… you are arguing FOR drinking a 2L of soda a day. Take a step back, your reasons for why studies aren’t conclusive might be good, and I may not be able to refute them… but look at the ridiculousness of your position.
    - crazygringo 3y ago
      Diet soda, not sugary soda. It's not what I do personally but I also don't judge, because scientifically, it's basically just water. Do you have a problem with somebody drinking 2 cans' worth of LaCroix in the morning, 1 at lunch, 2 in the afternoon, and 1 at dinner? Why should that suddenly become "ridiculous" because an eyedropper amount of caramel color, caffeine, and artificial sweetener get added?
jnwatson 3y ago
It took me some effort to limit to 2L a day.

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