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The difference is a poor person in the west can become a rich person (and vice versa). But that is not the case with caste - caste is assigned at birth. You can
by pkphilip 3y ago
The difference is a poor person in the west can become a rich person (and vice versa). But that is not the case with caste - caste is assigned at birth. You can't change it even though some people pretend that it can be.
- actuator 3y agoThe amusing thing is, even in India, it starts mattering less once you become rich. For example, you would typically find it is the middle class or below who are more attached to the idea of marriages between similar groups.
- aicaffeinelife 3y agoAnd yet currently in India there are active movements that are trying to get “lower caste” tag just to get the benefits of reservation even though they are comfortably well off. So don’t try to potray things as black and white and reduce a particular religion to one concept and unidimensional like other Abrahamic faiths. Which btw are pretty much black and white and have more stringent concept of what’s human and what’s not (for instance branding women witches and burning them alive).
- pkphilip 3y agoI am from the so-called upper caste myself. I know how the upper castes keep whining about reservations for the lower castes that is available to them now - but they had absolutely no issues with getting defacto "reservations" for 1000s of years. And can you please stop blaming other belief systems for faults in your religion and culture?
- nostrebored 3y agoI don't see how this really interacts with the parent comment. In practicality caste has been an immutable construct, and is currently the basis of much discrimination. I don't think anyone is saying that the single defining feature of India is caste. But it is an oddity to see people defend a concept that the vast majority of the world would define as unjust.
- pkphilip 3y agoCaste oppression is actually seeing a revival in India
- AlecSchueler 3y agoI understand that, though social mobility is far from a given and the cards are stacked against the people beginning in low income backgrounds. But the point is that the Subway worker and the data engineer are actually equal in their humanity. The one shouldn't have to rely on social mobility for me to see them as equal to the other.
- pkphilip 3y agoNo one is saying it is easy for a poor person to become wealthy.. But it is possible. Not so with caste or race. A black person or a lower caste person who is treated unfairly can do nothing to prevent that prejudice or bigotry against them