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Nyxt 3.0.0

105 points by slondr 3y ago

amadeuspagel 3y ago
Trying this on linux. The flatpak leads to this error: bash: ./nyxt.flatpak: cannot execute binary file: Exec format error The other link "Get NYXT for GNU/Linux" doesn't work at all.
- wjt 3y ago
  You can't execute a Flatpak bundle directly. You need to install it, then run it. Try: flatpak install --user Downloads/nyxt.flatpak flatpak run engineer.atlas.Nyxt
  - deleted 3y ago
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  - seanw444 3y ago
    Why does Flatpak insist on being so unwieldy? Every time I see it being used, I can't help but think it just looks clunky compared to... basically every other option.
    - commotionfever 3y ago
      you have to install it from a repository before running it. much like a normal package on Linux. to me it makes sense. you can update all your packages at once this way
iLemming 3y ago
Has anyone succeeded in installing and running it on M1 Mac?
geddawm 3y ago
I would love to use this, but I can't figure out how to install it on my M1 mbp.
- Fnoord 3y ago
  The website (at Download Nyxt 3.0.0) mentions: > macOS is not officially supported by Nyxt. An official port is currently in development. Unofficial, and older ports are available below: Docker, Macports. While Docker would work on a Mac with ARM, Docker on macOS is still slow AFAIK and a full-blown Linux VM. It also requires X11, the documentation mentions XQuartz. Hence, I'll skip this software, for now.
  - jmercouris 3y ago
    Indeed, we're working on it now. We even have a branch now :-)! Please stay tuned!
    - geddawm 3y ago
      This is incredibly exciting. Let me know if I can help test! Where does the branch live?
AbuAssar 3y ago
> Nyxt is a browser with deeply integrated AI and semantic document tools that work as a second brain to help you process and understand more, more quickly. > Nyxt is keyboard-driven (inspired by Emacs and Vim), infinitely extensible (via Lisp), and designed for power users.
- arghwhat 3y ago
  And using WebKit or WebEngine, rather than a novel engine.
  - slondr 3y ago
    They also plan on adding Gecko support eventually.
rosebay 3y ago
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vasili111 3y ago
Anyone is using Nyxt as main web browser? If yes, what is better in Nyxt than in other browsers?
- slondr 3y ago
  What’s better in Nyxt than other browsers is you have a whole lisp runtime which is directly connected to the browser engine. Nyxt is trying to be the Emacs of web browsers; all the theoretical and practical benefits of that model apply.
  - armitron 3y ago
    It can never be the Emacs of web browsers because the browser engine is written in C/C++, not Lisp and therefore minimally extensible through a very restricted API that is not even controlled or influenced in any way by the Nyxt team. I guess they could fork an engine but good luck with that. Last I checked, it didn't even support uBlock origin. That alone makes it a no-go for me and I imagine most folks who visit HN.
    - greggyb 3y ago
      The Emacs of text editors, Emacs itself, has a core written in C, not Lisp. The scotsmen are looking pretty sparse by your threshold (;
      - armitron 3y ago
        Except: - The Emacs team is in full control of both the C parts and the Lisp parts of Emacs. Exposing a C bit to Lisp, or introducing changes to the C core to benefit the Lisp parts, is frequently taking place. - What most people perceive as Emacs is implemented in Lisp and is extensible in Lisp. The C "core" is mostly the GC, low-level VM implementation and OS interface. Hardly bits and pieces that one would like to extend in Emacs Lisp.
    - slondr 3y ago
      Nyxt is designed to be engine agnostic, which means it had a defined api you could plug any engine into, even one you theoretically write yourself. Obviously this is impractical, but I’ve seen criticisms that emacs doesn’t have that exact ability — see the project mage docs for a detailed explanation of one of those criticisms.
behnamoh 3y ago
Cool, but how long until it's not further maintained anymore? Devs forget that people don't just switch browsers/OS/smartphone after investing so much in them.
nanna 3y ago
One thing I've always wanted from a browser is to keep my bookmarks in an org file. Is this kind of thing possible with Nyxt?
- jmercouris 3y ago
  Yes, it is possible :-)
larve 3y ago
The page says "Nyxt is a browser with deeply integrated AI and semantic document tools that work as a second brain to help you process and understand more, more quickly." but I have a hard time figuring out what that actually refers to. Pretty much all the stuff in tutorial/manual seem to be "standard" webbrowser functionality?
rrgok 3y ago
I very much want to try this on MacOS, but every attempt failed. I'm not well versed in lisp. I know MacOS is not officially supported and one of the method suggested is through docker (come on, since when running a browser need docker?). Please, kindly, provide friction free artifact (dmg or just a binary) to at least running and browsing, no need to support 100% MacOS, the community will help if adoption is easy.
- jmercouris 3y ago
  You're absolutely right. We're working on an official macOS port now.

105 points by slondr 3y ago

Trying this on linux. The flatpak leads to this error: bash: ./nyxt.flatpak: cannot execute binary file: Exec format error The other link "Get NYXT for GNU/Linux" doesn't work at all.

wjt 3y ago
You can't execute a Flatpak bundle directly. You need to install it, then run it. Try: flatpak install --user Downloads/nyxt.flatpak flatpak run engineer.atlas.Nyxt
- deleted 3y ago
  [deleted]
- seanw444 3y ago
  Why does Flatpak insist on being so unwieldy? Every time I see it being used, I can't help but think it just looks clunky compared to... basically every other option.
  - commotionfever 3y ago
    you have to install it from a repository before running it. much like a normal package on Linux. to me it makes sense. you can update all your packages at once this way

iLemming 3y ago

Has anyone succeeded in installing and running it on M1 Mac?

geddawm 3y ago

I would love to use this, but I can't figure out how to install it on my M1 mbp.

Fnoord 3y ago
The website (at Download Nyxt 3.0.0) mentions: > macOS is not officially supported by Nyxt. An official port is currently in development. Unofficial, and older ports are available below: Docker, Macports. While Docker would work on a Mac with ARM, Docker on macOS is still slow AFAIK and a full-blown Linux VM. It also requires X11, the documentation mentions XQuartz. Hence, I'll skip this software, for now.
- jmercouris 3y ago
  Indeed, we're working on it now. We even have a branch now :-)! Please stay tuned!
  - geddawm 3y ago
    This is incredibly exciting. Let me know if I can help test! Where does the branch live?

AbuAssar 3y ago

> Nyxt is a browser with deeply integrated AI and semantic document tools that work as a second brain to help you process and understand more, more quickly. > Nyxt is keyboard-driven (inspired by Emacs and Vim), infinitely extensible (via Lisp), and designed for power users.

arghwhat 3y ago
And using WebKit or WebEngine, rather than a novel engine.
- slondr 3y ago
  They also plan on adding Gecko support eventually.

rosebay 3y ago

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vasili111 3y ago

Anyone is using Nyxt as main web browser? If yes, what is better in Nyxt than in other browsers?

slondr 3y ago
What’s better in Nyxt than other browsers is you have a whole lisp runtime which is directly connected to the browser engine. Nyxt is trying to be the Emacs of web browsers; all the theoretical and practical benefits of that model apply.
- armitron 3y ago
  It can never be the Emacs of web browsers because the browser engine is written in C/C++, not Lisp and therefore minimally extensible through a very restricted API that is not even controlled or influenced in any way by the Nyxt team. I guess they could fork an engine but good luck with that. Last I checked, it didn't even support uBlock origin. That alone makes it a no-go for me and I imagine most folks who visit HN.
  - greggyb 3y ago
    The Emacs of text editors, Emacs itself, has a core written in C, not Lisp. The scotsmen are looking pretty sparse by your threshold (;
    - armitron 3y ago
      Except: - The Emacs team is in full control of both the C parts and the Lisp parts of Emacs. Exposing a C bit to Lisp, or introducing changes to the C core to benefit the Lisp parts, is frequently taking place. - What most people perceive as Emacs is implemented in Lisp and is extensible in Lisp. The C "core" is mostly the GC, low-level VM implementation and OS interface. Hardly bits and pieces that one would like to extend in Emacs Lisp.
  - slondr 3y ago
    Nyxt is designed to be engine agnostic, which means it had a defined api you could plug any engine into, even one you theoretically write yourself. Obviously this is impractical, but I’ve seen criticisms that emacs doesn’t have that exact ability — see the project mage docs for a detailed explanation of one of those criticisms.

behnamoh 3y ago

Cool, but how long until it's not further maintained anymore? Devs forget that people don't just switch browsers/OS/smartphone after investing so much in them.

nanna 3y ago

One thing I've always wanted from a browser is to keep my bookmarks in an org file. Is this kind of thing possible with Nyxt?

jmercouris 3y ago
Yes, it is possible :-)

larve 3y ago

The page says "Nyxt is a browser with deeply integrated AI and semantic document tools that work as a second brain to help you process and understand more, more quickly." but I have a hard time figuring out what that actually refers to. Pretty much all the stuff in tutorial/manual seem to be "standard" webbrowser functionality?

rrgok 3y ago

I very much want to try this on MacOS, but every attempt failed. I'm not well versed in lisp. I know MacOS is not officially supported and one of the method suggested is through docker (come on, since when running a browser need docker?). Please, kindly, provide friction free artifact (dmg or just a binary) to at least running and browsing, no need to support 100% MacOS, the community will help if adoption is easy.

jmercouris 3y ago
You're absolutely right. We're working on an official macOS port now.