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If the servers are running. If the servers deign to give permission to own the device you purchased. If they correctly recognize that this device is owned by

If the servers are running. If the servers deign to give permission to own the device you purchased. If they correctly recognize that this device is owned by the user. After I've purchased the device, the seller has no right to withhold ownership, and the existence of enterprise devices doesn't change that in the slightest.

Dylan16807 3y ago
If the process doesn't work then return it as defective. Transfer of control isn't happening exactly at sale time but a few hours later isn't a big deal. Though of course that depends on it staying unlocked.
- dingledork69 3y ago
  And it depends on the user being willing to connect it to the (public) internet without a firewall in between. I wonder if any of the countries that implement a country-wide firewall block this domain. That would disable bootloader unlocking for the entire country.
  - shadowgovt 3y ago
    We're talking about a cell phone though, right? A device that sooner or later is going to be connected to a cellular internet that will track it relentlessly? I'd imagine the demographic that is buying the cell phone and then not intending to use it as a phone is not one that Google is losing a lot of sleep over serving poorly.
- kortilla 3y ago
  This is incorrect. Have you considered that the delay between getting the device and getting it connected could be well outside of the return window or people could be purchasing them in countries without such consumer rights? Smartphones aren’t only for the developed world.
  - Dylan16807 3y ago
    Who buys a brand new phone but also has no internet connection for weeks? Do they have all the apps they need pre-downloaded? I don't think that's a big group.
    - KennyBlanken 3y ago
      It's quite common for people from elsewhere in the world to buy electronics in the US, Europe, Japan, etc and then bring them back to their home countries for a fraction of the cost of what the official or unofficial importer(s) want. That's why you end up with all sorts of region-locking nonsense, companies trying to protect their importers who have a monopoly on distribution of a particular device.
      - Dylan16807 3y ago
        You can unlock it before you go home.
    - rdbell 3y ago
      It usually takes about a month between the time I order something from the US and the time I have it in-hand. Last holiday season was about 2 months. Never tried a return because I'd have to pay through the nose on shipping.
      - Dylan16807 3y ago
        They specifically said a delay between getting the device and connecting it. That's very unfortunate if you'd have to pay a return for a promised feature not working.
    - thomastjeffery 3y ago
      Who said it has to be brand new to the end user? It might sit in a box for years getting sold back and forth as a commodity before anyone opens that box.
    - kortilla 3y ago
- thescriptkiddie 3y ago
  What happens in 5 years when Google gets tired of running the server?

Dylan16807 3y ago

If the process doesn't work then return it as defective. Transfer of control isn't happening exactly at sale time but a few hours later isn't a big deal. Though of course that depends on it staying unlocked.

dingledork69 3y ago
And it depends on the user being willing to connect it to the (public) internet without a firewall in between. I wonder if any of the countries that implement a country-wide firewall block this domain. That would disable bootloader unlocking for the entire country.
- shadowgovt 3y ago
  We're talking about a cell phone though, right? A device that sooner or later is going to be connected to a cellular internet that will track it relentlessly? I'd imagine the demographic that is buying the cell phone and then not intending to use it as a phone is not one that Google is losing a lot of sleep over serving poorly.
kortilla 3y ago
This is incorrect. Have you considered that the delay between getting the device and getting it connected could be well outside of the return window or people could be purchasing them in countries without such consumer rights? Smartphones aren’t only for the developed world.
- Dylan16807 3y ago
  Who buys a brand new phone but also has no internet connection for weeks? Do they have all the apps they need pre-downloaded? I don't think that's a big group.
  - KennyBlanken 3y ago
    It's quite common for people from elsewhere in the world to buy electronics in the US, Europe, Japan, etc and then bring them back to their home countries for a fraction of the cost of what the official or unofficial importer(s) want. That's why you end up with all sorts of region-locking nonsense, companies trying to protect their importers who have a monopoly on distribution of a particular device.
    - Dylan16807 3y ago
      You can unlock it before you go home.
  - rdbell 3y ago
    It usually takes about a month between the time I order something from the US and the time I have it in-hand. Last holiday season was about 2 months. Never tried a return because I'd have to pay through the nose on shipping.
    - Dylan16807 3y ago
      They specifically said a delay between getting the device and connecting it. That's very unfortunate if you'd have to pay a return for a promised feature not working.
  - thomastjeffery 3y ago
    Who said it has to be brand new to the end user? It might sit in a box for years getting sold back and forth as a commodity before anyone opens that box.
  - kortilla 3y ago
thescriptkiddie 3y ago
What happens in 5 years when Google gets tired of running the server?