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I don't hate KDE, I love many many things about it. But have they ever considered moving their software beyond alpha quality before releasing a new major versi

I don't hate KDE, I love many many things about it. But have they ever considered moving their software beyond alpha quality before releasing a new major version? A major reason I'm not putting any more time into KDE is the expectation that it'll never be stable.

solarkraft 4y ago
I know this is an incredibly snarky, cynical and just negative take, but that's how I felt when I was trying to use Plasma Wayland. That it was on a touch device made the experience considerably worse, but a lot of the UI glitches would likely have happened without it. A friend of mine has a collection of KDE glitches that look like the ones I experienced, but are completely different. Every KDE update blog post talks about bug fixes, but during the time I had been using KDE I couldn't sense any improvement. It's like they either fixed a minute subset of bugs or kept putting in new ones.
- solarkraft 4y ago
  Oh yeah, what I saw of Kirigami ... kind of sucked. From what I could tell (purely from use!) they have at least 3 different UI toolkits: Qt Widgets (the traditional, solid feeling and looking applications), Qml with Qt controls (looks mostly traditional, but has some weirdness around scrolling, sometimes it's extremely spongy) and Kirigami, which is the worst of them all with the weirdness of Qml-based apps AND a look different from the standard platform theme (kind of like material design but with the proportions being all off). There might be some configurations/frameworks in between these because some applications would have normal touchpad scrolling, but were then also scrollable by just dragging the mouse cursor (touch scrolling was hit and miss in Qt Widgets apps, Dolphin for instance just wouldn't do it, touch-based right clicks are of course another horror). Ideally I'd be totally behind Kirigami, I like the idea and I like Qml quite a lot too. But the UX was HORRIBLE.

solarkraft 4y ago

I know this is an incredibly snarky, cynical and just negative take, but that's how I felt when I was trying to use Plasma Wayland. That it was on a touch device made the experience considerably worse, but a lot of the UI glitches would likely have happened without it. A friend of mine has a collection of KDE glitches that look like the ones I experienced, but are completely different. Every KDE update blog post talks about bug fixes, but during the time I had been using KDE I couldn't sense any improvement. It's like they either fixed a minute subset of bugs or kept putting in new ones.

solarkraft 4y ago
Oh yeah, what I saw of Kirigami ... kind of sucked. From what I could tell (purely from use!) they have at least 3 different UI toolkits: Qt Widgets (the traditional, solid feeling and looking applications), Qml with Qt controls (looks mostly traditional, but has some weirdness around scrolling, sometimes it's extremely spongy) and Kirigami, which is the worst of them all with the weirdness of Qml-based apps AND a look different from the standard platform theme (kind of like material design but with the proportions being all off). There might be some configurations/frameworks in between these because some applications would have normal touchpad scrolling, but were then also scrollable by just dragging the mouse cursor (touch scrolling was hit and miss in Qt Widgets apps, Dolphin for instance just wouldn't do it, touch-based right clicks are of course another horror). Ideally I'd be totally behind Kirigami, I like the idea and I like Qml quite a lot too. But the UX was HORRIBLE.