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But we are also taking about tools that are used for piracy >90% of the time. Which, dangerously, can place things in legal danger. There are legitimate uses f

But we are also taking about tools that are used for piracy >90% of the time. Which, dangerously, can place things in legal danger. There are legitimate uses for, say, nitroglycerin - but >90% of uses will be illegal and it’s illegal to possess for that reason. Same could be argued for being the approach of some countries to guns. Same in some states for car radar scanners. I think the emulator developers really do need to consider actually doing something to combat piracy in the long-term, or Nintendo may actually be successful banning it.

emodendroket 4y ago
One could have said much the same about the iPod.
- yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
  Or YouTube, if we're picking examples.
lisbon44 4y ago
> But we are also taking about tools that are used for piracy >90% of the time. guessing guns manufactures should be liable given the mass shootings in certain trigger-happy places. > I think the emulator developers really do need to consider actually doing something to combat piracy in the long-term, surprised that nintendo has not attempted to get dolphin shutdown, with all past attempts of negotiation between third-party developers and big companies [e.g nintendo] have gotten nowhere what do you suggest?
- UberFly 4y ago
  "guessing guns manufactures should be liable given the mass shootings in certain trigger-happy places" What? What an off-base analogy.
  - dathos 4y ago
    I feel like it's an apt analogy if you're not from the US.
- surgical_fire 4y ago
  > surprised that nintendo has not attempted to get dolphin shutdown My guess is that they care about Switch emulation because it's their current console. A Switch emulator actively harms sales of new units and games - and keep in mind, in comparison to Sony and MS, Nintendo is small. They live and die by their IPs and by selling consoles and games. Dolphin emulates old hardware, that is not produced anymore. They also don't seem that worried about NDS and 3DS emulation and jailbreaking for that matter.
  - lisbon44 4y ago
    > Dolphin emulates old hardware, that is not produced anymore. They also don't seem that worried about NDS and 3DS emulation and jailbreaking for that matter. dolphin was able to boot and play some wii games relatively in the middle of commercial sale [2009-2010] so not a rule either.
devmor 4y ago
Someone else's intent to use something illegally should not preclude me from using it legally. Nor should the creators of said thing be responsible for the misuse of others. If Nintendo doesn't want their games pirated, they should go after people distributing and downloading the ROMs for those games.
Dylan16807 4y ago
People emulating games they own is a huge market, even if technically they violate things by not ripping it themselves.
bentley 4y ago
> I think the emulator developers really do need to consider actually doing something to combat piracy in the long-term, or Nintendo may actually be successful banning it. Emulator developers already scrupulously avoid providing any copyrighted game files or even purely functional firmware. On their forums and comment sections, they prohibit asking for or providing links to copyrighted content. For current systems like the Switch, they provide step‐by‐step instructions for how to dump personal copies of legitimately licensed software. What “something” do you suggest they do? Because Nintendo has openly stated in their copyright FAQs for decades that they consider even creating one’s own personal backups to be unauthorized and illegitimate use of their exclusive intellectual property. The reality is, there is no step they could take that would make Nintendo happy. Instead, emulator developers do the next best thing (rather, the better thing): keep their actions generally within the confines of current law.

emodendroket 4y ago

One could have said much the same about the iPod.

yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
Or YouTube, if we're picking examples.

lisbon44 4y ago

> But we are also taking about tools that are used for piracy >90% of the time. guessing guns manufactures should be liable given the mass shootings in certain trigger-happy places. > I think the emulator developers really do need to consider actually doing something to combat piracy in the long-term, surprised that nintendo has not attempted to get dolphin shutdown, with all past attempts of negotiation between third-party developers and big companies [e.g nintendo] have gotten nowhere what do you suggest?

UberFly 4y ago
"guessing guns manufactures should be liable given the mass shootings in certain trigger-happy places" What? What an off-base analogy.
- dathos 4y ago
  I feel like it's an apt analogy if you're not from the US.
surgical_fire 4y ago
> surprised that nintendo has not attempted to get dolphin shutdown My guess is that they care about Switch emulation because it's their current console. A Switch emulator actively harms sales of new units and games - and keep in mind, in comparison to Sony and MS, Nintendo is small. They live and die by their IPs and by selling consoles and games. Dolphin emulates old hardware, that is not produced anymore. They also don't seem that worried about NDS and 3DS emulation and jailbreaking for that matter.
- lisbon44 4y ago
  > Dolphin emulates old hardware, that is not produced anymore. They also don't seem that worried about NDS and 3DS emulation and jailbreaking for that matter. dolphin was able to boot and play some wii games relatively in the middle of commercial sale [2009-2010] so not a rule either.

devmor 4y ago

Someone else's intent to use something illegally should not preclude me from using it legally. Nor should the creators of said thing be responsible for the misuse of others. If Nintendo doesn't want their games pirated, they should go after people distributing and downloading the ROMs for those games.

Dylan16807 4y ago

People emulating games they own is a huge market, even if technically they violate things by not ripping it themselves.

bentley 4y ago

> I think the emulator developers really do need to consider actually doing something to combat piracy in the long-term, or Nintendo may actually be successful banning it. Emulator developers already scrupulously avoid providing any copyrighted game files or even purely functional firmware. On their forums and comment sections, they prohibit asking for or providing links to copyrighted content. For current systems like the Switch, they provide step‐by‐step instructions for how to dump personal copies of legitimately licensed software. What “something” do you suggest they do? Because Nintendo has openly stated in their copyright FAQs for decades that they consider even creating one’s own personal backups to be unauthorized and illegitimate use of their exclusive intellectual property. The reality is, there is no step they could take that would make Nintendo happy. Instead, emulator developers do the next best thing (rather, the better thing): keep their actions generally within the confines of current law.