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Based on discord's post: https://discord.com/blog/usernames https://discord.com/blog/usernames it seems it happens more than you'd expect; particularly as disco

Based on discord's post: https://discord.com/blog/usernames https://discord.com/blog/usernames it seems it happens more than you'd expect; particularly as discord has been on the uptick to being ubiquitous among teens/young adults who may wish to add each other after meeting in person

packetlost 3y ago
Fine. Have a first-come-first serve lottery system. Person with the lowest discriminator wins that name. You have to open that up to everyone (not just those who pay), but that should be relatively easy to do. IMO, I think it's also ok to give preference to people who 1) were there first 2) pay for the service
- Ekaros 3y ago
  Discriminators are random for non nitro-users. And if you stop paying you don't even get to keep one...
- pavel_lishin 3y ago
  > Fine. Have a first-come-first serve lottery system Isn't this exactly what Discord is doing?
- ewanm89 3y ago
  Okay, discriminators are randomly assigned unless one pays for nitro, that said they have account creation date on record, so they can do it in order no problem. The issues are the order they have chosen is not that simple. They are giving verified bots first choice (some of these are questionable), then owners of partnered servers, then discord for business, then it is going by account age. They have added a clarification to their blog post: "Current Nitro subscribers paying for the ability to customize their discriminator that registered for Nitro on or before March 1, 2023 will also be given early access." Yeah, when early access is in the list I do not know.
saghm 3y ago
I think what's confusing to me is why this has to be done in a breaking way. If the goal is to be able to have some sort of identifier people can remember and share to add each other, why not just make that a separate system where the "special" identifier maps to an "old-style" identity? They're already trying to change the symbolic notation for users (i.e. "@foo" instead of "foo#1234"), so it seems like they could just make that something unique enough to not be confused with an original name (e.g. "@@foo" to differentiate from how you tag people in chat today, or even something weirder like "@foo@").
- ysavir 3y ago
  I think that's essentially what they're doing. Currently "usernames" in the discord context are equivalent to display names. You can change your username at any time so long as 9999 other people don't already have the name your going for. With this change, you're getting a permanent identifier in the form of a username, while you retain your display name, which you can still change at any time, but now without having to worry about whether you're the 10000th person to get it.
  - saghm 3y ago
    Maybe I'm, getting confused by the messaging then; the article talks about "forcing people to make a change", which to me implies that this is some sort of transition where eventually the "old" names will no longer work, or at least that using a custom nickname per server won't work. If that's the case, then I don't consider this to be done in a "non-breaking way", although maybe I wasn't specific enough in my previous comment.
    - ysavir 3y ago
      Yeah, if I'm understanding it correctly, the word choice and communication really muddy the waters. If they chose to call it "unique identifier", and treat is a brand new value, I think there would be much less confusion and frustration. "Username" is too overloaded in this context for it to have been communicated clearly.
  - 3y ago
dadoum 3y ago
Note: this page seems to have big localization issues, as the French version actually has few parts in English because they amended it at the beginning and at the end, and that makes this article feel quite messy.
falsenapkin 3y ago
Meeting in person seems like the issue. In the gaming space for people who have used the platform for a while, it isn't so weird. The games I play it's even fun to see people have ign be their discord tag. I can see this providing value to "the general public" but I don't see how it provides value to gamers... and that's the thing I guess Discord is trying hard to branch out of gaming.
- dcsan 3y ago
  For in person why don't they add a qrcode scanner or shareable URL just like they do for servers? RN what I do is share a qrcode for a small server that I admin and then friend/add ppl as they join. Totally not needed tbh. Generally discord does a great job with onboarding, hope they figure this one out.

packetlost 3y ago

Fine. Have a first-come-first serve lottery system. Person with the lowest discriminator wins that name. You have to open that up to everyone (not just those who pay), but that should be relatively easy to do. IMO, I think it's also ok to give preference to people who 1) were there first 2) pay for the service

Ekaros 3y ago
Discriminators are random for non nitro-users. And if you stop paying you don't even get to keep one...
pavel_lishin 3y ago
> Fine. Have a first-come-first serve lottery system Isn't this exactly what Discord is doing?
ewanm89 3y ago
Okay, discriminators are randomly assigned unless one pays for nitro, that said they have account creation date on record, so they can do it in order no problem. The issues are the order they have chosen is not that simple. They are giving verified bots first choice (some of these are questionable), then owners of partnered servers, then discord for business, then it is going by account age. They have added a clarification to their blog post: "Current Nitro subscribers paying for the ability to customize their discriminator that registered for Nitro on or before March 1, 2023 will also be given early access." Yeah, when early access is in the list I do not know.

saghm 3y ago

I think what's confusing to me is why this has to be done in a breaking way. If the goal is to be able to have some sort of identifier people can remember and share to add each other, why not just make that a separate system where the "special" identifier maps to an "old-style" identity? They're already trying to change the symbolic notation for users (i.e. "@foo" instead of "foo#1234"), so it seems like they could just make that something unique enough to not be confused with an original name (e.g. "@@foo" to differentiate from how you tag people in chat today, or even something weirder like "@foo@").

ysavir 3y ago
I think that's essentially what they're doing. Currently "usernames" in the discord context are equivalent to display names. You can change your username at any time so long as 9999 other people don't already have the name your going for. With this change, you're getting a permanent identifier in the form of a username, while you retain your display name, which you can still change at any time, but now without having to worry about whether you're the 10000th person to get it.
- saghm 3y ago
  Maybe I'm, getting confused by the messaging then; the article talks about "forcing people to make a change", which to me implies that this is some sort of transition where eventually the "old" names will no longer work, or at least that using a custom nickname per server won't work. If that's the case, then I don't consider this to be done in a "non-breaking way", although maybe I wasn't specific enough in my previous comment.
  - ysavir 3y ago
    Yeah, if I'm understanding it correctly, the word choice and communication really muddy the waters. If they chose to call it "unique identifier", and treat is a brand new value, I think there would be much less confusion and frustration. "Username" is too overloaded in this context for it to have been communicated clearly.
- 3y ago

dadoum 3y ago

Note: this page seems to have big localization issues, as the French version actually has few parts in English because they amended it at the beginning and at the end, and that makes this article feel quite messy.

falsenapkin 3y ago

Meeting in person seems like the issue. In the gaming space for people who have used the platform for a while, it isn't so weird. The games I play it's even fun to see people have ign be their discord tag. I can see this providing value to "the general public" but I don't see how it provides value to gamers... and that's the thing I guess Discord is trying hard to branch out of gaming.

dcsan 3y ago
For in person why don't they add a qrcode scanner or shareable URL just like they do for servers? RN what I do is share a qrcode for a small server that I admin and then friend/add ppl as they join. Totally not needed tbh. Generally discord does a great job with onboarding, hope they figure this one out.