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I'd love to see video with subtitles in both the source language and the target language, with edges between the corresponding terms. (Not perfect of course, t

by yarg 3y ago

I'd love to see video with subtitles in both the source language and the target language, with edges between the corresponding terms. (Not perfect of course, translations never are, but for me (at least) it would ease understanding.)

mentos 3y ago
Trying to learn French I exported all the subtitles for an episode of a French tv show ‘Lupin’ and then worked my way through reading it first and then watched it but unfortunately felt no easier. Probably because reading it once through really isn’t enough. Would be fun if there was an entire 10 week course that worked up to an episode of real tv that by the time you get to it watching is completely fluent.
- pbhjpbhj 3y ago
  There a podcast I follow occasionally, the presenter does a brief news-style interest story in a random subject. The first read through is sometimes incomprehensible (to me) but then he breaks down each phrase, and explains them (in French mostly). At the end he reads the piece in full again, and it's mostly comprehensible ... but that's a 2 minute piece of speech. Trying to do that for a whole movie would be way too much for me. Perhaps that would suit you too: Learn French with daily podcasts https://www.chosesasavoir.com https://www.chosesasavoir.com RSS address: https://feeds.megaphone.fm/FODL4957050068 https://feeds.megaphone.fm/FODL4957050068 I use AntennaPod installed with F-Droid, far and away the best podcast player I've found. (No affiliations or associations, just what I've found useful)
  - cmehdy 3y ago
    You might be interested in RFI's "easy" French news: https://francaisfacile.rfi.fr/fr/podcasts/journal-en-fran%C3%A7ais-facile/ https://francaisfacile.rfi.fr/fr/podcasts/journal-en-fran%C3... They have articles and audio+transcript news if I remember correctly. I'm French myself but I found a lot of good opportunities to learn things organically in other languages when following the news (in Japanese for me that was NHK Easy: https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/easy/ https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/easy/ ) Bon courage pour ton apprentissage!
  - SturgeonsLaw 3y ago
    Just a quick note of thanks for your serendipitous comment - as someone who wants to improve their French, uses Android, likes RSS and wants a non-shit podcast app preferably with free software principles, this has pretty much nailed it
    - pbhjpbhj 3y ago
      C'est formidable!
- mumblemumble 3y ago
  For Spanish, Destinos is something like that. It's a reasonably interesting telenovela that starts out with beginner-level language and quickly works up to more interesting dialogue. https://www.learner.org/series/destinos-an-introduction-to-spanish/ https://www.learner.org/series/destinos-an-introduction-to-s...
- watwut 3y ago
  What worked for me was to read a scene in advance and then watch that scene. Or watch with subtitles and then again without them. Whole show is too long.
- jfengel 3y ago
  French is such a nightmare to listen to. Even when I know every word I often still can't make them out. I understand spoken Spanish and German much better despite far less education. I have put a lot of work into French and it's very frustrating.
leke 3y ago
I think that's called translinear translation. I like the idea, but hard to find the content. I never thought to look for film though. I wonder if there is a site where you can download movie subtitles.
- yarg 3y ago
  You'd want something more powerful than subtitles - otherwise you get n^2 scaling with the number of languages.
- visarga 3y ago
  See my other post
- detrites 3y ago
  I think you mean "interlinear" translation. Or aka a "gloss": https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interlinear_gloss https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interlinear_gloss Particularly, in the Structure section the Taiwanese example.
impoppy 3y ago
This extension scratches that exact itch — having audio in German and captions both in German and English for example
yarg 3y ago
This might actually be a useful application for these language bots.

by yarg 3y ago

mentos 3y ago

Trying to learn French I exported all the subtitles for an episode of a French tv show ‘Lupin’ and then worked my way through reading it first and then watched it but unfortunately felt no easier. Probably because reading it once through really isn’t enough. Would be fun if there was an entire 10 week course that worked up to an episode of real tv that by the time you get to it watching is completely fluent.

pbhjpbhj 3y ago
There a podcast I follow occasionally, the presenter does a brief news-style interest story in a random subject. The first read through is sometimes incomprehensible (to me) but then he breaks down each phrase, and explains them (in French mostly). At the end he reads the piece in full again, and it's mostly comprehensible ... but that's a 2 minute piece of speech. Trying to do that for a whole movie would be way too much for me. Perhaps that would suit you too: Learn French with daily podcasts https://www.chosesasavoir.com https://www.chosesasavoir.com RSS address: https://feeds.megaphone.fm/FODL4957050068 https://feeds.megaphone.fm/FODL4957050068 I use AntennaPod installed with F-Droid, far and away the best podcast player I've found. (No affiliations or associations, just what I've found useful)
- cmehdy 3y ago
  You might be interested in RFI's "easy" French news: https://francaisfacile.rfi.fr/fr/podcasts/journal-en-fran%C3%A7ais-facile/ https://francaisfacile.rfi.fr/fr/podcasts/journal-en-fran%C3... They have articles and audio+transcript news if I remember correctly. I'm French myself but I found a lot of good opportunities to learn things organically in other languages when following the news (in Japanese for me that was NHK Easy: https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/easy/ https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/easy/ ) Bon courage pour ton apprentissage!
- SturgeonsLaw 3y ago
  Just a quick note of thanks for your serendipitous comment - as someone who wants to improve their French, uses Android, likes RSS and wants a non-shit podcast app preferably with free software principles, this has pretty much nailed it
  - pbhjpbhj 3y ago
    C'est formidable!
mumblemumble 3y ago
For Spanish, Destinos is something like that. It's a reasonably interesting telenovela that starts out with beginner-level language and quickly works up to more interesting dialogue. https://www.learner.org/series/destinos-an-introduction-to-spanish/ https://www.learner.org/series/destinos-an-introduction-to-s...
watwut 3y ago
What worked for me was to read a scene in advance and then watch that scene. Or watch with subtitles and then again without them. Whole show is too long.
jfengel 3y ago
French is such a nightmare to listen to. Even when I know every word I often still can't make them out. I understand spoken Spanish and German much better despite far less education. I have put a lot of work into French and it's very frustrating.

leke 3y ago

I think that's called translinear translation. I like the idea, but hard to find the content. I never thought to look for film though. I wonder if there is a site where you can download movie subtitles.

yarg 3y ago
You'd want something more powerful than subtitles - otherwise you get n^2 scaling with the number of languages.
visarga 3y ago
See my other post
detrites 3y ago
I think you mean "interlinear" translation. Or aka a "gloss": https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interlinear_gloss https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interlinear_gloss Particularly, in the Structure section the Taiwanese example.

impoppy 3y ago

This extension scratches that exact itch — having audio in German and captions both in German and English for example

yarg 3y ago

This might actually be a useful application for these language bots.