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They're trying to expand towards some privacy-focused offering. I enjoy having Firefox Relay to hide my real email address when subscribing on a website. I hope

by m-p-3 3y ago

They're trying to expand towards some privacy-focused offering. I enjoy having Firefox Relay to hide my real email address when subscribing on a website. I hope they'll keep increading their paid services to become sustainable.

jacooper 3y ago
Honestly Firefox relay is just an inferior offering compared to the competition, such as simplelogin by proton and annonaddy. Also not supporting custom domains is stupid, I don't want to get locked into your service.
- Caligatio 3y ago
  I feel like lock-in is an understatement. If Relay shuts down or you opt to stop paying, your online presence is basically halted without a LOT of work to change your email everywhere.
  - jacooper 3y ago
    100%
Caligatio 3y ago
I have no information to back up this claim but my guess is that nearly all of the users of Mozilla's non-Firefox products also use Firefox (e.g. all Relay users are Firefox users). If this is true, they still need a best-in-class browser to attract users to their paid services. Moreover, if a majority of their income is from Google from being their default search engine, then it behooves Mozilla to increase their browser's market share.
- chii 3y ago
  > it behooves Mozilla to increase their browser's market share. i would imagine quite the opposite. Google's funding is implicitly a mechanism for google to _prevent_ firefox from gaining a large enough marketshare to threaten chrome, whilst it remain a "viable alternative" to give to regulators. It might be that google is on paper paying for search engine traffic, but i think it's plain as day to anyone, that if firefox's market share grows significantly higher than chrome, google would actually stop paying firefox in an attempt to prevent chrome from being dethroned. I think the firefox executives know this - and therefore, never actually attempt to focus firefox's market share but instead, focus on peripheral features. After all, their lavish pay (despite apparently being below market for the same position elsewhere) depends on google.

by m-p-3 3y ago

jacooper 3y ago

Honestly Firefox relay is just an inferior offering compared to the competition, such as simplelogin by proton and annonaddy. Also not supporting custom domains is stupid, I don't want to get locked into your service.

Caligatio 3y ago
I feel like lock-in is an understatement. If Relay shuts down or you opt to stop paying, your online presence is basically halted without a LOT of work to change your email everywhere.
- jacooper 3y ago
  100%

Caligatio 3y ago

I have no information to back up this claim but my guess is that nearly all of the users of Mozilla's non-Firefox products also use Firefox (e.g. all Relay users are Firefox users). If this is true, they still need a best-in-class browser to attract users to their paid services. Moreover, if a majority of their income is from Google from being their default search engine, then it behooves Mozilla to increase their browser's market share.

chii 3y ago
> it behooves Mozilla to increase their browser's market share. i would imagine quite the opposite. Google's funding is implicitly a mechanism for google to _prevent_ firefox from gaining a large enough marketshare to threaten chrome, whilst it remain a "viable alternative" to give to regulators. It might be that google is on paper paying for search engine traffic, but i think it's plain as day to anyone, that if firefox's market share grows significantly higher than chrome, google would actually stop paying firefox in an attempt to prevent chrome from being dethroned. I think the firefox executives know this - and therefore, never actually attempt to focus firefox's market share but instead, focus on peripheral features. After all, their lavish pay (despite apparently being below market for the same position elsewhere) depends on google.