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> schizophrenic people are drawn to cannabis This sounds a lot like saying that people with a predisposition to lung cancer are drawn to cigarettes.
by josephcsible 4y ago
> schizophrenic people are drawn to cannabis
This sounds a lot like saying that people with a predisposition to lung cancer are drawn to cigarettes.
- csomar 4y agoMy understanding is that schizophernia is a predisposed condition. Cannabis can trigger it but not really cause it. (That's at least what I got from talking to a professional). One clue to find out whether you are predisposed is if you have someone in the family (related genetically) who has at-birth mental health issues. Then stay a gazillion miles clear of any drugs.
- MagicMoonlight 4y agoIf you don’t have it and then taking it makes you have it then that is causing it
- mock-possum 4y agoRight. Which is why there’s no science to back up the claim that marijuana causes schizophrenia.
- swagasaurus-rex 4y agoMarijuana causing schizophrenia would be easy to determine if nobody was schizophrenic before the reefer. Before then they were just possessed by demons.
- CapstanRoller 4y agoThere's a big difference between a direct cause and a potential trigger for a condition with specific endogenous prerequisites. There is no universal trend of people consuming cannabis and developing schizophrenia.
- calvinmorrison 4y agoIs it like a catalyst?
- CapstanRoller 4y agoSometimes, but not always. In chemistry, catalysts can help initiate or facilitate chemical reactions, but there is often another input required to kick start the process (e.g. heat). A catalyst won't do anything if there are other things missing. We know that cannabis can act as a catalyst for schizophrenia, but we also know that not everyone who is predisposed to schizophrenia develops it 100% of the time after cannabis use. There are degrees of predisposition, and a bunch of other factors that contribute to this.
- jb1991 4y agoDoes a freezer make ice, or does water make ice?
- CP3f6kMA 4y agoA trigger requires a gun to actually do anything.
- fsckboy 4y ago> at-birth mental health issues many of the most common mental health conditions (personality disorders, and schizophrenia) don't appear till the end of adolescence.
- josephcsible 4y ago> My understanding is that schizophernia is a predisposed condition. Cannabis can trigger it but not really cause it. If something is flammable, and so predisposed to burning, and you hold a lit match to it, you did cause the fire. You didn't just trigger it.
- dragonwriter 4y agoThis is a weird argument, because “trigger” and “cause” here are exact synonyms.
- astrange 4y agoSee, you just have to draw a causal diagram and enumerate all possible counterfactual worlds…
- derangedHorse 4y agoYour analogy isn't equivalent to what was said. To be 1-1 with the OP, you'd be arguing that the lighter caused something to be flammable. Causing a *fire* is something else. Similarly someone can be schizophrenic but have an *episode* caused by weed. The weed didn't make them schizophrenic but it did cause an episode to happen.
- mock-possum 4y agoThis allegory only works if you’re willing to accept that some people are inflammable.
- bheadmaster 4y agoI think it's just that schizophrenic people are often depressed, and depressed people are drawn to drugs in order to alleviate the negative feelings, one of the drugs being cannabis.