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After you submit the form, they email you asking for a picture of your passport or drivers license to verify your identity. That has got to be some kind of viol
by moolcool 3y ago
After you submit the form, they email you asking for a picture of your passport or drivers license to verify your identity. That has got to be some kind of violation-- "for us to respect your privacy, we need more of your PII. Just to make sure you're really you, of course".
- swores 3y agoWhile it may seem ironic, at least GDPR in the EU/UK does allow companies to require a person to verify their identity in such a way in order to accept any request being made about their personal data (with the logic being that otherwise anyone can create, for example, JeffBezos2747@gmail.com and send fake GDPR requests for his personal data).
- _jab 3y agoSeems like this is an unfortunate consequence of data collection being opt-out, not opt-in.
- bilekas 3y agoYes absolutely agree, but in some cases, like this one, it's more a symptom of the way OpenAI was not permitted by way of terms and service to grab my data. Facebook for example know it's you because you signed up to the account.
- bpodgursky 3y agoNo, because you have no right to request that my data is deleted without my express permission. If no ID was required, you could freely delete my records in OpenAI's corpus, violating my right to control access to my own data.
- moolcool 3y ago> violating my right to control access to my own data If that's the way you choose to look at it, perhaps you could argue that the system should be opt-in, rather than opt-out. Maybe you should have to provide ID to grant access, instead of letting your identity be exploited for profit implicitly.
- grej 3y agoShh. Please don't give the EU regulators any ideas here.
- JohnFen 3y agoI think that's a great idea to give the regulators.
- goatlover 3y agoHow is the data collected from the public web supposed to know which data is opt-in, since there wasn't an opt-in feature across the web to start with?
- moolcool 3y agoThe web is chockablock with examples of sites which collect your data without consent.
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- hbn 3y agoI mean you're right that it would be naive to just accept any deletion request from anyone. But is that really violating your rights by having someone request your data be deleted from someone else's dataset? If someone wrote your name on a wall and I asked them to erase it, I don't think that violates your rights. You didn't ask for OpenAI to train on your data in the first place. Having it deleted now is no different than OpenAI never having existed in the first place.
- judge2020 3y ago> I mean you're right that it would be naive to just accept any deletion request from anyone. But is that really violating your rights by having someone request your data be deleted from someone else's dataset? Unless we're talking about something other than GDPR, this same situation would apply to online services, not just training AI datasets.
- renewiltord 3y agoWell, OpenAI does exist. I'm not eager for some lunatic to commit me to damnatio memoriae. Chances are quite good that there exist people who you would be unhappy with me ensuring are deleted from Wikipedia, for instance. You have no right to make someone forget me.
- piaste 3y ago> But is that really violating your rights by having someone request your data be deleted from someone else's dataset? "Hi, I am $competitor, and I want all information about my successes scrubbed from the internet. Thank you."
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