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Many of us kept our trust rating for MS right around zero despite their "embrace of open source"; it seems we were correct in recognizing it as nothing more tha

Many of us kept our trust rating for MS right around zero despite their "embrace of open source"; it seems we were correct in recognizing it as nothing more than a recognition of market realities packaged up as a marketing ploy.

beerpls 3y ago
It’s not just about trust, MS is outright hostile. Hostile UI, hostile business practices, hostile legal and growth endeavors At this point i’m not hust distrusting MS i’m actively doing anything I can to support their demise
- out-of-ideas 3y ago
  aren't all these providers-of-things hostile in about (all ways) or at least most ways than not hostile ways? MS, Apple, Google, Amazon, FB, Adobe, IBM... they just want money; where's the money? <insert stewie+brian>
  - beerpls 3y ago
    I feel the same about them all, tho MS google and fb all top the ranks imho
- jones6ofMont 3y ago
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trinsic2 3y ago
Embrace and Extend.
- javcasas 3y ago
  Ya forgot Extinguish. Microsoft didn't.
lallysingh 3y ago
So.. how does everyone feel about their stuff on GitHub right now?
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- bsuvc 3y ago
  They tend to lock issues frequently. Presumably it is to prevent people discussing problems at length. I don't know any other reason they would do that. It seems to go against how most other organizations use GitHub.
- doctor_lollipop 3y ago
  ... or about needing a Microsoft (GitHub) account to publish Rust packages (on crates.io).
  - Waterluvian 3y ago
    I was surprised to hear this so I went searching. Yep. Wow. [1] I use GitHub all the time but I never expected it to be mandatory if you wanted to publish a package for a popular open source language. But as the top says, “If you are interested in helping with this work, please feel free to get started!” (Though only if you’re a contributor or open a duplicate issue) [1] https://github.com/rust-lang/crates.io/issues/326 https://github.com/rust-lang/crates.io/issues/326
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croutonwagon 3y ago
I feel like even during the IE days microsoft was coining the term “Embrace, Extend, Extinguish”. We are just in the cycle on a modern platform. Heading out of phase 2 and into phase 3.
rakoo 3y ago
Thing is, they embraced open source, not libre software aka copyleft. Non-copyleft as always been about taking from others and not giving back. Whoever has ever thought differently never understood that non-copyleft is a tool of liberalism, not community building

beerpls 3y ago

It’s not just about trust, MS is outright hostile. Hostile UI, hostile business practices, hostile legal and growth endeavors At this point i’m not hust distrusting MS i’m actively doing anything I can to support their demise

out-of-ideas 3y ago
aren't all these providers-of-things hostile in about (all ways) or at least most ways than not hostile ways? MS, Apple, Google, Amazon, FB, Adobe, IBM... they just want money; where's the money? <insert stewie+brian>
- beerpls 3y ago
  I feel the same about them all, tho MS google and fb all top the ranks imho
jones6ofMont 3y ago
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trinsic2 3y ago

Embrace and Extend.

javcasas 3y ago
Ya forgot Extinguish. Microsoft didn't.

lallysingh 3y ago

So.. how does everyone feel about their stuff on GitHub right now?

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bsuvc 3y ago
They tend to lock issues frequently. Presumably it is to prevent people discussing problems at length. I don't know any other reason they would do that. It seems to go against how most other organizations use GitHub.
doctor_lollipop 3y ago
... or about needing a Microsoft (GitHub) account to publish Rust packages (on crates.io).
- Waterluvian 3y ago
  I was surprised to hear this so I went searching. Yep. Wow. [1] I use GitHub all the time but I never expected it to be mandatory if you wanted to publish a package for a popular open source language. But as the top says, “If you are interested in helping with this work, please feel free to get started!” (Though only if you’re a contributor or open a duplicate issue) [1] https://github.com/rust-lang/crates.io/issues/326 https://github.com/rust-lang/crates.io/issues/326

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croutonwagon 3y ago

I feel like even during the IE days microsoft was coining the term “Embrace, Extend, Extinguish”. We are just in the cycle on a modern platform. Heading out of phase 2 and into phase 3.

rakoo 3y ago

Thing is, they embraced open source, not libre software aka copyleft. Non-copyleft as always been about taking from others and not giving back. Whoever has ever thought differently never understood that non-copyleft is a tool of liberalism, not community building