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I’m sure when the times comes there will be a _sex workers union_ lobbying for regulations on AI porn due to the loss of jobs. It’s already happening with the

by vuln 3y ago

I’m sure when the times comes there will be a _sex workers union_ lobbying for regulations on AI porn due to the loss of jobs. It’s already happening with the writers guild…

gjsman-1000 3y ago
> I’m sure when the times comes there will be a _sex workers union_ lobbying for regulations on AI porn due to the loss of jobs. Porn already, for 95%+ of performers, pays terribly. Maybe one or two grand at best per "job" due to rampant piracy, ad-blocking, and the fact that nobody wants it on their credit card statement, and not everyone wants to figure out Bitcoin. They hardly have the capital to start a union, or pay dues. But if AI porn takes off, those earnings will turn porn into purely a "because you want to" business. Probably not a bad thing considering the exploitative aspect in my opinion.
- vuln 3y ago
  Perhaps Ethical Partners Capital / Mindgeek (which owns 90%+ of all porn sites) will create the union to ensure a stable flow of content. They’ve already taken steps to remove unverified user generated content due to abuse / misuse. Which killed the small time creators and gave the big production studios more screen time.
  - gjsman-1000 3y ago
    I actually see a different future. Even with Identity Verification, there's always the risk that someone will be trafficked, verified as a performer, and then later escape their trafficker, file a lawsuit, and win/achieve a settlement. Which has (allegedly) happened multiple times, at least with pending lawsuits. What's safer than Identity Verification? AI-generated porn. Completely "ethically" sourced, with no humans involved to potentially get hurt. Infinite variety, instantly customizable to everyone's own preferences, and (theoretically) truly endless in style and form. Also, it kills one of the biggest secular arguments against porn: "If nobody could possibly be trafficked or underage, what's the problem again, outside of your religious arguments?" The moment it really hits the fan, I expect MindGeek would immediately adopt it. They can't bear the idea of losing market share to some competing app with such features. More variety and lower risk? They never cared about their "performers" before, they are a liability that is currently just a cost of doing business. But if they aren't required for the business, they'll be dropped like a hot potato. Assuming porn companies would be concerned about morality is a mistake by any definition. I would not be surprised, at all, if 10-20 years from now, the only porn on PornHub is a back catalog of AI-generated porn; with a subscription available for generating new porn to your preferences. After all, there is perhaps nothing that has more visual training data available for developing an AI against than porn.
    - vuln 3y ago
      That makes sense for the most part. > The moment it really hits the fan, I expect MindGeek would immediately adopt it. They can't bear the idea of losing market share to some competing app with such features. MindGeek would just buyout said company. MindGeek has practically a monopoly on porn and porn sites. https://medium.com/five-guys-facts/8-19-16-davis-ce6771141589 https://medium.com/five-guys-facts/8-19-16-davis-ce677114158...
    - seanmcdirmid 3y ago
      The crazy part of AI generated porn is that you can base it off of actual people. And not just famous people, it can’t really avoid regulation in that context.

by vuln 3y ago

I’m sure when the times comes there will be a _sex workers union_ lobbying for regulations on AI porn due to the loss of jobs. It’s already happening with the writers guild…

gjsman-1000 3y ago

> I’m sure when the times comes there will be a _sex workers union_ lobbying for regulations on AI porn due to the loss of jobs. Porn already, for 95%+ of performers, pays terribly. Maybe one or two grand at best per "job" due to rampant piracy, ad-blocking, and the fact that nobody wants it on their credit card statement, and not everyone wants to figure out Bitcoin. They hardly have the capital to start a union, or pay dues. But if AI porn takes off, those earnings will turn porn into purely a "because you want to" business. Probably not a bad thing considering the exploitative aspect in my opinion.

vuln 3y ago
Perhaps Ethical Partners Capital / Mindgeek (which owns 90%+ of all porn sites) will create the union to ensure a stable flow of content. They’ve already taken steps to remove unverified user generated content due to abuse / misuse. Which killed the small time creators and gave the big production studios more screen time.
- gjsman-1000 3y ago
  I actually see a different future. Even with Identity Verification, there's always the risk that someone will be trafficked, verified as a performer, and then later escape their trafficker, file a lawsuit, and win/achieve a settlement. Which has (allegedly) happened multiple times, at least with pending lawsuits. What's safer than Identity Verification? AI-generated porn. Completely "ethically" sourced, with no humans involved to potentially get hurt. Infinite variety, instantly customizable to everyone's own preferences, and (theoretically) truly endless in style and form. Also, it kills one of the biggest secular arguments against porn: "If nobody could possibly be trafficked or underage, what's the problem again, outside of your religious arguments?" The moment it really hits the fan, I expect MindGeek would immediately adopt it. They can't bear the idea of losing market share to some competing app with such features. More variety and lower risk? They never cared about their "performers" before, they are a liability that is currently just a cost of doing business. But if they aren't required for the business, they'll be dropped like a hot potato. Assuming porn companies would be concerned about morality is a mistake by any definition. I would not be surprised, at all, if 10-20 years from now, the only porn on PornHub is a back catalog of AI-generated porn; with a subscription available for generating new porn to your preferences. After all, there is perhaps nothing that has more visual training data available for developing an AI against than porn.
  - vuln 3y ago
    That makes sense for the most part. > The moment it really hits the fan, I expect MindGeek would immediately adopt it. They can't bear the idea of losing market share to some competing app with such features. MindGeek would just buyout said company. MindGeek has practically a monopoly on porn and porn sites. https://medium.com/five-guys-facts/8-19-16-davis-ce6771141589 https://medium.com/five-guys-facts/8-19-16-davis-ce677114158...
  - seanmcdirmid 3y ago
    The crazy part of AI generated porn is that you can base it off of actual people. And not just famous people, it can’t really avoid regulation in that context.