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I don't like that people are doing this, but I also feel like Elon has been bringing this kind of negative attention on himself by acting in an increasingly awf
by jackmott42 3y ago
I don't like that people are doing this, but I also feel like Elon has been bringing this kind of negative attention on himself by acting in an increasingly awful way over the past 5 years. I hope acting like a troll on twitter is worth all the lawsuits and lost Tesla sales for him. Such a strange state of affairs.
- forgetfreeman 3y agoNothing particularly strange about it, dude is literally just an echo of all the other talented grifters in history that have managed to ride other people's genius to notoriety.
- misiti3780 3y agoYou cant possibly believe that.
- forgetfreeman 3y agoSure I can. The man has contributed literally zero scientific or engineering input into any of the technologies he's routinely touted for being a genius for his involvement with.
- misiti3780 3y agoserious question - what have you done?
- forgetfreeman 3y ago20 years of contributions to open source software, built websites and payment handlers for some of the most potent nonprofit organizations on the planet, and studiously avoided taking credit for other people's work, none of which is relevant to a discussion of Elon Musk.
- throwaway60607 3y agoWhere are all the other grifters riding other people's genius to the orbit and then back to Earth in one piece? If it's as simple as just (ab)using some engineers, why can't Bezos do it? Whatever you say, there is something unique about Musk that nobody else has been able to replicate.
- forgetfreeman 3y agoIf you think nobody has replicated his results you are in desperate need of a history lesson my friend. Thomas Edison absolutely existed.
- ClumsyPilot 3y agoDoes being a unique grifter better?
- throwaway60607 3y agoYeah, if it's so unique it allows you to produce rockets that land 10 times, then yeah, it's much better. Not even a grift at that point.
- forgetfreeman 3y agoElon did that? Himself? Personally? Busy guy
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- watwut 3y agoI think that OP in here referenced actual engineers and scientists. Musk is not one, despite taking all ghe credit as if he was. Musk is able to convince or bully others into giving him investment money - including goverment. That is real contribution for sure. Just not an engineering.
- throwaway60607 3y ago
- eqvinox 3y agoI have a feeling¹ other rocket launches (particularly "first" launches) get a similar amount of complaints from environmental groups, just like major infrastructure projects do. Except due to Elon becoming… clown in chief? … there's a spotlight on it. It's newsworthy because flaming Elon generates clicks. Which doesn't mean the environmental groups are wrong, or that Elon is getting shitcanned for nothing… he really inflicted this on himself. [¹] I have no idea how to dig up data on this, unfortunately.
- chasd00 3y agoI could not agree more, I've never met Musk but he's probably always been kind of a jerk. My-way-or-the-highway people with Asperger's usually are, however social media seems to magnify the worst traits of someone's personality and expose it to the world over a megaphone. IMO if he'd just logout of Twitter things would get a lot better for his companies, including Twitter, but social media got him. Very few people are immune to social media's grip.
- neilv 3y ago> always been kind of a jerk. My-way-or-the-highway people with Asperger's usually are Could we could just say "My-way-or-the-highway people are jerks"? I don't see a need to link that to people with Asperger's. Some of them have an extra challenge in some situations already, without negative prejudices adding to that.
- ohjfjfk 3y agoLet’s just hide from reality, huh? It hurts feelings to sincerely ask if such people should have massive influence in ver humanity? Tough. Look at Elon being a snowflake who needs a safe space while trashing everyone else. In his case at least he’s earned being mocked.
- bannedbybros 3y ago[dead]
- justrealist 3y agoIn a functioning legal system, being obnoxious should not actually be a legal risk!
- ClumsyPilot 3y agoBeing an ass increasses likelihood of getting attacked - verbally, legally, physically. In you pisoff enough people, someone will eventually succeed
- justrealist 3y agoThat's not good!
- AlexandrB 3y agoI think doing legally sketchy things is what's causing most of the legal risk here. Being obnoxious just draws attention to said sketchiness and makes attempts at repercussions more swift.
- api 3y agoI have never seen someone burn more goodwill than this. Funny part is he would not necessarily have to even change his political views, just act like a grown man. It’s perhaps a cautionary tale about addiction and having one’s mind warped by social media. I really think he got his brain sucked out by Twitter.
- hersko 3y ago> It’s perhaps a cautionary tale about addiction and having one’s mind warped by social media I view it the same way, but in the opposite direction. Musk has arguably done more for the environment than anyone else alive, but his social media faux pas and the responding social media cult-like hate has made him a persona non grata to those who claim they hold the environment "sacred". Social media drama is apparently more important than the environment to many on the left.
- api 3y agoSocial media drama is apparently more important than the environment to many. Period. I've been calling social media companies the tobacco companies of the mind for a long time. It's an addictive vehicle for poison.
- o0banky0o 3y agoWhen the masses are watching, there is no action that does not offend some one of them. Miscommunication is in fact still at the bottom of most conflicts
- theptip 3y agoThe trouble is, anyone trying to build anything gets this shit. The NEPA process is beyond busted. It’s even used to make it harder to build solar and wind farms. The problem is that there are too many veto points. It’s easy to add new ones, very hard to remove them. There is no attempt at an ROI justification at any step, so “value of one person’s enjoyment of plovers” is held alongside millions of dollars of wages paid into a community. I don’t want to bulldoze the wilderness, I know about the burning rivers, EPA is good on net, but I think we need to chop the worst 10% of planning/environmental regulations.
- watwut 3y agoI agree as a general point, but this has nothing to do with Twitter or social media. Nor with Tesla. This is just a separate area where musks companies do not care about collateral damage.
- 7952 3y agoNot sure what is driving this case in particular, but I doubt the average naturalist or birder really cares about Musk or Twitter. They are just geeks who want to enjoy nature, and this kind of activity disrupts nature. Coastal birds can be very fragile to disturbance and are already threatened by lack of habitat. They often have limited energy levels and regular disruption will cause them to take flight and expend that energy. This can have an effect on mortality. Not sure if this is the case at Boca Chica, but I can understand why people are worried.