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>GitHub’s job is to make Microsoft money This is my concern, if the US Gov had **lls, you would force Microsoft spin Github off into a non-profit company. Alr

by jmclnx 4y ago

>GitHub’s job is to make Microsoft money This is my concern, if the US Gov had **lls, you would force Microsoft spin Github off into a non-profit company. Already things have been added to Github that most developers of "Open" Source do not like. Time for github to be made independent and run from a foundation like the *BSDs

llampx 4y ago
The US government is interested in making sure US companies get as big as possible, why would they hamstring them? Do you think they're out there shooting people in the Middle East so that Middle Eastern oil companies can make more money or so that the American ones can?
- acyou 4y ago
  I think regulation is a little more complicated than that. There is a vast system of interests, but I don't agree that overall incentives are to make US companies get as big as possible. They lose competitiveness at some point. Middle East is not relevant. Github not being part of Microsoft could be better for the overall economy. Consider the development of the World Wide Web. If you consider Github and aspects of Github as a network and communication protocol, it would be better in the long term to decentralize control.
  - llampx 4y ago
    IMO the US government has a big interest in trying to get American companies as big as possible, and to keep them in the US. Or maybe you can point out some things that the government has done (recently) to show the opposite?
arp242 4y ago
Outside of the obvious fact that the US government has no power to arbitrarily take away property because "most people don't like it" (a dubious claim by the way), it's not like an independent foundation will necessarily improve things. Point in case: that horrendous GNU Savannah thing.
- throwaway2037 4y ago
  You wrote: Point in case: that horrendous GNU Savannah thing. What's wrong with the non-GNU side? The hosting requirements look pretty reasonable to me: https://savannah.nongnu.org/register/requirements.php https://savannah.nongnu.org/register/requirements.php
  - arp242 4y ago
    Have you ever used it? The UI is like a bad copy of SourceForge anno 1998 (in fact, IIRC it's based on a very old copy of the SourgeForge code). Savannah is pretty much the embodiment of "open source people can't design UIs if they lives depended on it". Also: some of those policies are ridiculous. "We require the “or any later version” formulation for the GNU GPL, GNU AGPL, and GNU LGPL." It could not host the most widely used free software on the planet: Linux.

by jmclnx 4y ago

llampx 4y ago

The US government is interested in making sure US companies get as big as possible, why would they hamstring them? Do you think they're out there shooting people in the Middle East so that Middle Eastern oil companies can make more money or so that the American ones can?

acyou 4y ago
I think regulation is a little more complicated than that. There is a vast system of interests, but I don't agree that overall incentives are to make US companies get as big as possible. They lose competitiveness at some point. Middle East is not relevant. Github not being part of Microsoft could be better for the overall economy. Consider the development of the World Wide Web. If you consider Github and aspects of Github as a network and communication protocol, it would be better in the long term to decentralize control.
- llampx 4y ago
  IMO the US government has a big interest in trying to get American companies as big as possible, and to keep them in the US. Or maybe you can point out some things that the government has done (recently) to show the opposite?

arp242 4y ago

Outside of the obvious fact that the US government has no power to arbitrarily take away property because "most people don't like it" (a dubious claim by the way), it's not like an independent foundation will necessarily improve things. Point in case: that horrendous GNU Savannah thing.

throwaway2037 4y ago
You wrote: Point in case: that horrendous GNU Savannah thing. What's wrong with the non-GNU side? The hosting requirements look pretty reasonable to me: https://savannah.nongnu.org/register/requirements.php https://savannah.nongnu.org/register/requirements.php
- arp242 4y ago
  Have you ever used it? The UI is like a bad copy of SourceForge anno 1998 (in fact, IIRC it's based on a very old copy of the SourgeForge code). Savannah is pretty much the embodiment of "open source people can't design UIs if they lives depended on it". Also: some of those policies are ridiculous. "We require the “or any later version” formulation for the GNU GPL, GNU AGPL, and GNU LGPL." It could not host the most widely used free software on the planet: Linux.