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Framework Laptop Cupholder Expansion Card
- nrp 4y agoI have no idea how or why this is on HN, but we did print a couple of them to test out, and they work! It is a goofy idea, but there are genuinely some scenarios where it would be useful. We’re thankful to have attracted such a clever and creative community.
- jseliger 4y agoPresumably because it's funny, whimsical, and imaginative.
- dmix 4y agoHacker News occasionally still values hacking
- Aeolun 4y agoWhere is the cynism I’m looking for? Someone say that this is pointless since you can do the same thing by utilizing existing tools like your table!
- RealStickman_ 4y agoA table, by definition, is a surface upon which a cup can be placed. A cup holder on the other hand envelops the cup and prevents any sliding movement. This makes a cup holder ideal in moving vehicles.
- m463 4y agocupholders seem to have fallen behind starbucks law of cup capacity, and now serve to hold the bottom of the cup in place while the rest of the cup freely rolls/pitches around the center of gravity of the coffee. This seems to be much more effective in tipping. I really wish cars had more modular docking systems for electronics, drinks, snacks and sunglasses.
- dual_dingo 4y agoYeah, but then the base module will cost 2000$ (or 20$/month), the cup holder attachment is another 200$ and the manufacturer will sent assassin squads against anyone daring to create compatible attachments or even the printable designs for them...
- nordsieck 4y ago> cupholders seem to have fallen behind starbucks law of cup capacity What you're looking for is a "cup holder expander" or "cup holder adapter". Much like the cigarette lighter became a power delivery standard because it's there, so too has the cup holder become a standard, although admittedly quite a bit more nascent.
- 93po 4y agothe Ford Maverick did this an even provides templates for creating your own 3d prints that are compatible with their docking system https://www.ford.com/support/how-tos/owner-resources/vehicle-documents/how-do-i-use-3d-printing-to-customize-my-ford-maverick-pickup/ https://www.ford.com/support/how-tos/owner-resources/vehicle... https://www.thedrive.com/news/44276/ford-releases-blueprint-files-for-tons-of-3d-printable-maverick-accessories https://www.thedrive.com/news/44276/ford-releases-blueprint-...
- blowski 4y agoIt’s also confusing to call it a printable cup holder given “CUPS” on Linux. Probably trademark infringement. Blatant clickbait.
- avian 4y agoChatGPT 4.0 will make all forms of coffee holders obsolete in 6 months anyway.
- Aardwolf 4y agoYou mean it'll carry the coffee for us?
- nehal3m 4y agoMore like it’ll do all the thinking for us so we can go back to sleep. Coffee itself is obsolete.
- hammyhavoc 4y agoIt's going to drink all the coffee because it's just like a human brain and needs the caffeine to function decently. Turns out caffeine was all that was in the way of AGI.
- LoganDark 4y agoHate when I wake up in the morning and ChatGPT keeps meowing at me to feed it. It's like it's never eaten before in its life.
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- webdevver 4y agoI immediately thought of, maybe you could use it to keep various cables out the way: anyone who does a lot of embedded work knows how busy the desk can get with a debug probe + serial + power + usb device under test, etc, etc
- azernik 4y agoGood lord yes. Though I'd probably want a more dedicated cable organizer, with multiple separated brackets for organization and cutouts for removing and adding and reorganizing cables without unplugging them.
- stronglikedan 4y ago> I have no idea how or why this is on HN That's easy! It was submitted, and subsequently upvoted.
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- slabity 4y agoHow about a version that can keep your coffee or tea warm using the power from the USB-C port?
- askvictor 4y agoEven better would be to direct the laptop's cooling fan exhaust towards the cup, then mine some bitcoin.
- eru 4y agoIt would be interesting to run the numbers on power use here. I think you can draw a maximum of 100W via a USB-C port? (Though most laptops would really struggle with that, even when plugged in.) How much heat does a cup of tea lose per second at eg 20C room temperature and 60C water temperature? (Or whatever you want to keep your beverage at?)
- sp332 4y agohttps://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/5265/cooling-a-cup-of-coffee-with-help-of-a-spoon/5510#5510 https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/5265/cooling-a-c... To counteract a 2-centigrade-degree drop per minute, you'd only need 35W to keep 250ml at a constant 85C. (Or 65C if that's where you start it.)
- tinix 4y agoso you could insulate the coffee so it doesn't drop in temperature, induction heating a vacuum flask maybe?
- MayeulC 4y agoI bet adding a lid substantially decreases the power requirements. Nit: please use Celsius (and "°C" if you can)
- sp332 4y agoI prefer centigrade over Celsius because it's not named after a person. Also I wanted to be clear that it's a two degree drop, not 2°C.
- bombcar 4y agoI wonder how strong it would be, and how much chance of tipping you might have. Now a USB-C version that was a phone holder that also charged the phone ...
- yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago> Now a USB-C version that was a phone holder that also charged the phone ... I am abruptly reminded of the PDA that was so small that it synced by fitting into a laptop: https://hackaday.com/2021/03/11/rex-wasnt-really-a-pda-it-was-the-first-great-digital-rolodex/ https://hackaday.com/2021/03/11/rex-wasnt-really-a-pda-it-wa... https://www.paullynch.org/pda/REX/ https://www.paullynch.org/pda/REX/
- teruakohatu 4y agoThat is amazing, what a neat idea.
- yellowapple 4y agoAnd I'm reminded of the Motorola Atrix and its lapdock.
- mrguyorama 4y agoI always wanted one of those for my Motorola Droid 4. Nowadays I scratch that itch with the steamdeck, which is actually useful as a standalone computing device connected to normal peripherals
- nrp 4y agoThere was something insanely appealing about the REX and related devices. I would love to see someone build a PDA or Tamagotchi-like Expansion Card or Input Module for a Framework Laptop.
- drdrey 4y agoAnd I am reminded of this weird Apple patent where a macbook docks into a display: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2008/01/apple-patents-idiosyncratic-docking-station/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2008/01/apple-patents-idiosy...
- bitwize 4y agoBack in the day, most PCs and laptops came with cupholders. They occupied a drive bay, and when you pushed the button the cupholder would pop out...
- aBioGuy 4y agoI thought that held the coaster AOL sent everyone in the mail.
- tailspin2019 4y agoI used to get ham delivered from mine. https://youtu.be/RFV4pNuRA0w https://youtu.be/RFV4pNuRA0w
- themodelplumber 4y agoI saw this on Twitter earlier and the photo somehow gave the slightest sense [1] that the laptop was flexing under some strain. So I wonder, even if that's not the case here... :-) how much would it take, and what would happen? Would the cupholder break first or would a key cap fly off first? And what is on the top-10 list of the least-safe 3D-printed laptop accessories? 1. https://twitter.com/FrameworkPuter/status/1653103668730949632/photo/1 https://twitter.com/FrameworkPuter/status/165310366873094963...
- nrp 4y agoIn the shared design and printed out of normal filaments, the cup holder will break long before anything happens to the laptop. The cup holder was tilting slightly because the rails on that printed part need to be tuned a bit to be tighter. I think the design was based on our shared reference design, which we deliberately made slightly loose for printability (under the mistaken assumption that nobody would build something load-bearing using it).
- filoleg 4y ago> printed out of normal filaments, the cup holder will break long before anything happens to the laptop Really? I can see it with PLA, but i thought PETG was supposed to handle it fine (as long as you are not using it with giant glasses filled with liquid). And PETG is pretty much the second most common type of a filament after PLA. Note: i could be entirely wrong about this, but I was under the impression that this use-case is exactly what PETG is made to handle.
- spiffytech 4y agoOut of curiosity, could the expansion card slot bear the entire weight of the laptop if it were used to hold the laptop aloft?
- WJW 4y agoProbably, the laptop is not that heavy and there is a good few square centimeters in the slot. If you are have proper support (aluminium or steel) then it should easily hold up the weight. That said, I wouldn't lean or even type on the laptop if it was suspended over an empty space like that. I don't think there would be much resistance to the laptop sliding off the support sideways either.
- askvictor 4y agoI was hoping it would have a secondary function as an optical disc drive.
- aledalgrande 4y agoIt won't do that but you can use it as a bubble wand.
- gleenn 4y agoI thought it was going to be a cd-rom drive
- pveierland 4y agoFramework is doing brilliant work. They create reusable computer formats that anyone can hack against. Strongly considering a Framework 13 as my next computer. - Expansion cards: https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/ExpansionCards https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/ExpansionCards - Expansion bay: https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/ExpansionBay https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/ExpansionBay - Input modules: https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/inputmodule-rs https://github.com/FrameworkComputer/inputmodule-rs
- _cenw 4y agoCan anyone report if the battery life issues have been fixed, and to what degree. This is what kept me from switching...
- pveierland 4y agoThey improved it as part of the latest refresh: https://frame.work/blog/whats-new-in-this-years-framework-laptop-13-part1 https://frame.work/blog/whats-new-in-this-years-framework-la...
- abofh 4y agoBattery life better than my apple device for sure - though it's an old MacBook air
- spiffytech 4y ago
- PostOnce 4y agoit should be a spring wire (like a kids toy tent) or some kind of origami mechanism so it can be pushed away and hidden inside the laptop when not in use, then it'd be very impressive.
- ImPostingOnHN 4y agothe collapsibility of the wires and size adjustment could both be done by joining two wires (1 attached at 1 end, on each side) to each other via a double fisherman's knot or a blood knot sort of arrangement
- classified 4y agoIndeed, what is any computer without a cup of coffee beside it? This is a great project (and the 3D viewer rocks).
- dcomp 4y agoFor those wondering, this is a joke from the LTT WAN Show [0] [0] https://www.youtube.com/live/CSOF8RFrihM?feature=share&t=9826 https://www.youtube.com/live/CSOF8RFrihM?feature=share&t=982...
- OliverGuy 4y agoIf you read the description in the link that's exactly there the idea is from!
- j45 4y agoI was half expecting a cdrom tray that come out. Those who know, know.
- brycedriesenga 4y agoLol, gotta love that old free cupholder.
- j45 4y agoMy cupholder stopped coming out!
- the_mitsuhiko 4y agoI'm somewhat surprised not more expansion cards have popped up by now.
- wumms 4y agoI need a telescopic version to keep 30cm minimum liquid-to-laptop distance.
- bjoli 4y agoI wrote a comment a couple of days ago that I want a stationary computer case with 12 5.25 drive bays. Invert the chassis and have a top to bottom air flow. That way I don't need any USB ports included on the case. I can just pick any I want as a 5.25 bay. Or maybe 18 how swap 3.5 harddrive bays. Or a memory card reader. Or 3 120mm fans. Or 12 small drawers. Or a cigarette lighter and beverage holder (real thing). I have an old case that I love, but the front IO is hideously outdated. Expandability like the framework laptop is something we had for tower computers, but we did away with it to make them look nice.