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The problem is that airline industry people are actually also the most qualified (on paper) to run the FAA.

by nerdponx 4y ago

ouid 4y ago
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- School-Cotton 4y ago
  No, treason is aiding a foreign power that is at war with the US.
- Georgelemental 4y ago
  Regulatory capture is not a problem that can be solved by executing examples, because the captured officials usually don't even think of themselves as captured. The solution is to align incentives, for example by closing the revolving door
- tiedieconderoga 4y ago
  Organized sedition, maybe, but "treason" is narrowly defined in the US constitution: >Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. >The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood¹, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted. ¹: "Corruption of blood" is a legal term. This passage means that treason charges cannot be carried to future generations, they only apply to the person who committed the act.
- coreyoconnor 4y ago
  I appreciate the spirit. Not treason, but definitely anti-making-shit-better.
  - santoshalper 4y ago
    A betrayal of your duty, your country and your people, but not treason per se.
rcme 4y ago
Are they? Wouldn't a career FAA employee be a better choice?
- junofan 4y ago
  No, the heads of federal agencies are usually external so they can be held accountable for fuckups independently of the agencies’ cultures.
  - rcme 4y ago
    No, the heads of federal agencies are external because they're political appointees. High profile jobs go to donors and those who have supported the politician in charge of the appointment.
    - boeingUH60 4y ago
      *Some federal appointees. The head of FAA under Trump was Stephen Dickson, who was an F-15 fighter pilot in the U.S. Air Force, then a pilot for 27 years at Delta Airlines before becoming Vice President of flight operations [1]. The current head under Biden is Billy Nolen, a former pilot who flew the Boeing 757 and 767 and worked as an airline executive for years before joining the FAA [2]. By credentials, these two are definitely qualified. 1- https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/presidential-actions/president-donald-j-trump-announces-intent-nominate-individual-key-administration-post-7/ https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/presidential-actions/pr... 2- https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/30600-safety-professional-billy-nolen-acting-faa-administrator https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/30600-safety-professional...
      - rcme 4y ago
        I think the original point being made was that having such extensive airline industry experience actually makes you unqualified to lead the FAA. For instance, Dickson, through his position at Delta, has likely developed strong ties to counterparts at Boeing. This made him unable to adequately address the safety issues of the 737 MAX. My follow-up point was that experience in regulating airlines is more important than experience running an airline when it comes to leading the FAA. However, those who regulate airlines as a career are unlikely to be big political donors, so they're unlikely to be chosen to lead the FAA.
GartzenDeHaes 4y ago
They have a conflict of interest, which makes them unqualified for public service.
- dsfyu404ed 4y ago
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The problem is that airline industry people are actually also the most qualified (on paper) to run the FAA.

ouid 4y ago

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School-Cotton 4y ago
No, treason is aiding a foreign power that is at war with the US.
Georgelemental 4y ago
Regulatory capture is not a problem that can be solved by executing examples, because the captured officials usually don't even think of themselves as captured. The solution is to align incentives, for example by closing the revolving door
tiedieconderoga 4y ago
Organized sedition, maybe, but "treason" is narrowly defined in the US constitution: >Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. >The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood¹, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted. ¹: "Corruption of blood" is a legal term. This passage means that treason charges cannot be carried to future generations, they only apply to the person who committed the act.
coreyoconnor 4y ago
I appreciate the spirit. Not treason, but definitely anti-making-shit-better.
- santoshalper 4y ago
  A betrayal of your duty, your country and your people, but not treason per se.

rcme 4y ago

Are they? Wouldn't a career FAA employee be a better choice?

junofan 4y ago
No, the heads of federal agencies are usually external so they can be held accountable for fuckups independently of the agencies’ cultures.
- rcme 4y ago
  No, the heads of federal agencies are external because they're political appointees. High profile jobs go to donors and those who have supported the politician in charge of the appointment.
  - boeingUH60 4y ago
    *Some federal appointees. The head of FAA under Trump was Stephen Dickson, who was an F-15 fighter pilot in the U.S. Air Force, then a pilot for 27 years at Delta Airlines before becoming Vice President of flight operations [1]. The current head under Biden is Billy Nolen, a former pilot who flew the Boeing 757 and 767 and worked as an airline executive for years before joining the FAA [2]. By credentials, these two are definitely qualified. 1- https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/presidential-actions/president-donald-j-trump-announces-intent-nominate-individual-key-administration-post-7/ https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/presidential-actions/pr... 2- https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/30600-safety-professional-billy-nolen-acting-faa-administrator https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/30600-safety-professional...
    - rcme 4y ago
      I think the original point being made was that having such extensive airline industry experience actually makes you unqualified to lead the FAA. For instance, Dickson, through his position at Delta, has likely developed strong ties to counterparts at Boeing. This made him unable to adequately address the safety issues of the 737 MAX. My follow-up point was that experience in regulating airlines is more important than experience running an airline when it comes to leading the FAA. However, those who regulate airlines as a career are unlikely to be big political donors, so they're unlikely to be chosen to lead the FAA.

GartzenDeHaes 4y ago

They have a conflict of interest, which makes them unqualified for public service.

dsfyu404ed 4y ago
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