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I lived in mainland China and Hong Kong for nearly a decade and had electric induction stoves in every apartment. Anecdotal evidence is, as ever, weak evidence.

kenned3 3y ago
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- justin66 3y ago
  > Here's the thing, one of you is lying and it is clear which one it is. Not helpful.
- lobocinza 3y ago
  > and not a major metropolis Probably he lived in a major metropolis. AS NYC is a major metropolis I think his anectode illustrates better.
- dang 3y ago
  Please make your substantive points without crossing into flamewar or personal attack. Those things are not what HN is for, and destroy what it is for. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful. Edit: we've had to ask you this more than once before: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32655788 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32655788 (Aug 2022) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24256585 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24256585 (Aug 2020) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23950934 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23950934 (July 2020) Worse, it looks like you've been using HN primarily to post this kind of thing. Please stop! We have to ban accounts that do that and I don't want to ban you.
schrectacular 3y ago
Interesting. Maybe it's a north/south thing? I was in Beijing. Or maybe it was an affluence thing? I can totally imagine an indication stove being a status symbol. But they are far from ubiquitous and common in the country overall, of that I can assure you.
- culturestate 3y ago
  I lived in Shanghai and Shenzhen, and I think it was mostly indicative of how new the building was. Anything built after ~2000 usually had the option of plumbed gas or electric, but in older buildings I saw a lot of those standalone bottled gas hobs with the purpose-built alcove in the kitchen. In Hong Kong, it was really down to personal preference. My first apartment came with a normal resistive stove that the landlord swapped to an induction cooktop at my request, and that building (on HK island) didn't even have plumbed gas. It'd been disconnected during a renovation years before I moved in. > But they are far from ubiquitous and common in the country overall, of that I can assure you. I actually agree with you here, I was just making a point about the precariousness of using personal anecdata to support a position as broad as "people in China rarely have electric stoves." In a country that big, even the outliers make for an enormous group.
  - schrectacular 3y ago
    Indeed. I was responding to the claim that they are just as ubiquitous as in the US. Seems a bold claim given my personal experience. I would bet that they will become ever more popular in China as they push heavily toward electric infrastructure with new nuclear power plants and heavy investment in electric cars.
- arp242 3y ago
  I know absolutely nothing about the type of stoves they use in China, or in the US for that matter, but remember that experiences may go out of date quicker than you'd might expect. Before I moved to the UK I had literally never seen an electric stove in my life, much less used one, as gas was ubiquitous in the Netherlands. I'm sure you could find it, but it was rare. In the last few years things changed rapidly though, and when I moved back last year there were a number of apartments that had electric or induction) stoves.

kenned3 3y ago

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justin66 3y ago
> Here's the thing, one of you is lying and it is clear which one it is. Not helpful.
lobocinza 3y ago
> and not a major metropolis Probably he lived in a major metropolis. AS NYC is a major metropolis I think his anectode illustrates better.
dang 3y ago
Please make your substantive points without crossing into flamewar or personal attack. Those things are not what HN is for, and destroy what it is for. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful. Edit: we've had to ask you this more than once before: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32655788 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32655788 (Aug 2022) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24256585 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24256585 (Aug 2020) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23950934 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23950934 (July 2020) Worse, it looks like you've been using HN primarily to post this kind of thing. Please stop! We have to ban accounts that do that and I don't want to ban you.

schrectacular 3y ago

Interesting. Maybe it's a north/south thing? I was in Beijing. Or maybe it was an affluence thing? I can totally imagine an indication stove being a status symbol. But they are far from ubiquitous and common in the country overall, of that I can assure you.

culturestate 3y ago
I lived in Shanghai and Shenzhen, and I think it was mostly indicative of how new the building was. Anything built after ~2000 usually had the option of plumbed gas or electric, but in older buildings I saw a lot of those standalone bottled gas hobs with the purpose-built alcove in the kitchen. In Hong Kong, it was really down to personal preference. My first apartment came with a normal resistive stove that the landlord swapped to an induction cooktop at my request, and that building (on HK island) didn't even have plumbed gas. It'd been disconnected during a renovation years before I moved in. > But they are far from ubiquitous and common in the country overall, of that I can assure you. I actually agree with you here, I was just making a point about the precariousness of using personal anecdata to support a position as broad as "people in China rarely have electric stoves." In a country that big, even the outliers make for an enormous group.
- schrectacular 3y ago
  Indeed. I was responding to the claim that they are just as ubiquitous as in the US. Seems a bold claim given my personal experience. I would bet that they will become ever more popular in China as they push heavily toward electric infrastructure with new nuclear power plants and heavy investment in electric cars.
arp242 3y ago
I know absolutely nothing about the type of stoves they use in China, or in the US for that matter, but remember that experiences may go out of date quicker than you'd might expect. Before I moved to the UK I had literally never seen an electric stove in my life, much less used one, as gas was ubiquitous in the Netherlands. I'm sure you could find it, but it was rare. In the last few years things changed rapidly though, and when I moved back last year there were a number of apartments that had electric or induction) stoves.