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The ... ahem, administrators of Fox News and the Conservative media bubble told their flock that 87,000 IRS federal agents were being hired to come to everyone'

The ... ahem, administrators of Fox News and the Conservative media bubble told their flock that 87,000 IRS federal agents were being hired to come to everyone's houses (Conservatives first though) to remove all AR-15s and gas appliances as soon as possible, probably after Kamala Harris orchestrates Biden's removal from office via the 25th amendment so she, famous trans progressive, can implement the true LiberalTM agenda. Fossil fuel use for energy (in the long term) should be centralized, then replaced. Building gas lines to new buildings should therefore be less preferred than running all-electric. Then of course, there is the reason gas stoves got brought up recently, which is concern with interior air quality and its long term impact on families. The reality is that eventually, gas appliances will probably be restricted/phased out of use in new installations for several reasons. This shouldn't be surprising, sensational or controversial. The fiction is that they will be forcefully removed from existing installations. See electric vehicles, where my Fox-ian father thinks all gas cars will be banned in 2025 or some shit, when in reality new sales won't even be meaningfully restricted for another 12 years.

carlosjobim 4y ago
When the day comes that gas stoves actually get banned (either forcefully removed or by banning the distribution of gas), your comment will again be: "This shouldn't be surprising, sensational or controversial."
- unethical_ban 4y ago
  >banning the distribution of gas At some point that will happen, or else it will simply be so inconvenient to use gas it will be impractical for anything except remote places with propane tanks. Why is that shocking? Are you also upset that you no longer have easy access to whale oil for your lighting, or a market for steam-powered sedans? Yes, someday in the relatively far future (decades) gas stoves will be a novelty, something small kids look at like they look at CRT televisions or ham radios today. Who cares? My point is that the outrage on conservative media was built on lies and exaggerations about the now, as if in 2024 gas stoves would be banned. You You moved the goalpost in your comment.
  - carlosjobim 4y ago
    I'm not writing this response to you, but to other people who might read the conversation. Whale oil was replaced because of cheaper and superior synthetic alternatives. CRT Television were replaced because of more practical flat panels. There are no advantages to electrical stoves compared to gas stoves. Gas stoves are far superior to electrical for cooking, and for operating both electrical and gas are equivalently practical. The energy cost of gas vs electrical is unimportant for home use, and in professional use you will use gas stoves. Both electricity and gas (in general) are equally modern (or old) technologies, being a couple of hundred years old. Replacing gas with electricity is in no sense progression, it's just different tech. Induction stoves are much better than conventional electric, but they are a far cry from gas stoves, which have all the benefits of induction and none of the drawbacks.
annexrichmond 4y ago
> Conservative media bubble told their flock that 87,000 IRS federal agents were being hired to come to everyone's houses Did they actually say that, cause that sounds pretty hyperbolic to what their narrative actually was, which is that 87k agents were being hired which would effectively be targeting middle class and small businesses, instead of big corps. I have friends who were were wrongfully audited, and it’s a huge costly, stressful burden. I don’t think it’s wrong to question how the IRS is managing its budget.
- pgodzin 4y ago
  Part of the narrative was how they would all have guns too. It ignored the fact that most of those employees were actually customer service representatives, and you can see this year the huge increase in number of tax filers who were able to actually speak to someone from the IRS on the phone.
- unethical_ban 4y ago
  I was being hyperbolic. I didn't pay attention to the 87k news, since Fox News and Ted Cruz talked about it I assumed it was meaningless distraction.
  - fallingknife 4y ago
    > I was being hyperbolic Yes. You and the people you are criticizing.
    - unethical_ban 4y ago
      I'm not a "journalist" nor do I, fact-sharer or opinion-spewer, have hundreds of thousands of followers. The obligations I have to society in this regard are lower than cable news.

carlosjobim 4y ago

When the day comes that gas stoves actually get banned (either forcefully removed or by banning the distribution of gas), your comment will again be: "This shouldn't be surprising, sensational or controversial."

unethical_ban 4y ago
>banning the distribution of gas At some point that will happen, or else it will simply be so inconvenient to use gas it will be impractical for anything except remote places with propane tanks. Why is that shocking? Are you also upset that you no longer have easy access to whale oil for your lighting, or a market for steam-powered sedans? Yes, someday in the relatively far future (decades) gas stoves will be a novelty, something small kids look at like they look at CRT televisions or ham radios today. Who cares? My point is that the outrage on conservative media was built on lies and exaggerations about the now, as if in 2024 gas stoves would be banned. You You moved the goalpost in your comment.
- carlosjobim 4y ago
  I'm not writing this response to you, but to other people who might read the conversation. Whale oil was replaced because of cheaper and superior synthetic alternatives. CRT Television were replaced because of more practical flat panels. There are no advantages to electrical stoves compared to gas stoves. Gas stoves are far superior to electrical for cooking, and for operating both electrical and gas are equivalently practical. The energy cost of gas vs electrical is unimportant for home use, and in professional use you will use gas stoves. Both electricity and gas (in general) are equally modern (or old) technologies, being a couple of hundred years old. Replacing gas with electricity is in no sense progression, it's just different tech. Induction stoves are much better than conventional electric, but they are a far cry from gas stoves, which have all the benefits of induction and none of the drawbacks.

annexrichmond 4y ago

> Conservative media bubble told their flock that 87,000 IRS federal agents were being hired to come to everyone's houses Did they actually say that, cause that sounds pretty hyperbolic to what their narrative actually was, which is that 87k agents were being hired which would effectively be targeting middle class and small businesses, instead of big corps. I have friends who were were wrongfully audited, and it’s a huge costly, stressful burden. I don’t think it’s wrong to question how the IRS is managing its budget.

pgodzin 4y ago
Part of the narrative was how they would all have guns too. It ignored the fact that most of those employees were actually customer service representatives, and you can see this year the huge increase in number of tax filers who were able to actually speak to someone from the IRS on the phone.
unethical_ban 4y ago
I was being hyperbolic. I didn't pay attention to the 87k news, since Fox News and Ted Cruz talked about it I assumed it was meaningless distraction.
- fallingknife 4y ago
  > I was being hyperbolic Yes. You and the people you are criticizing.
  - unethical_ban 4y ago
    I'm not a "journalist" nor do I, fact-sharer or opinion-spewer, have hundreds of thousands of followers. The obligations I have to society in this regard are lower than cable news.