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Quoting the article: >But government authorities have underestimated the danger, the study found. Officials rely on a climate vulnerability assessment, designe

Quoting the article: >But government authorities have underestimated the danger, the study found. Officials rely on a climate vulnerability assessment, designed by India’s Department of Science and Technology, that indicates a smaller percentage of the country faces high risk from climate change than the new findings suggest The Indian state's persistent denial of science and criticism will continue to cost Indians their lives. It happened during COVID and will happen again in years to come. There is a worse problem here - heat causes electric power demand to rise. No gigawatt-scale power grid anywhere on the planet has supplied increased demand through renewables. What will happen is simple - coal and gas output will increase and this is an unfortunate but vicious cycle. Carbon emissions will only make the problem worse in the short term.

briantakita 3y ago
The Indian government is funding implementation of Dense Plasma Focus devices which harness energy from a Plasmoid. Apparently, these power generators can fit on a large truck. I wonder what the current status of this is. https://asiatimes.com/2020/07/focus-fusion-is-the-hottest-idea-in-nuclear-energy-2/ https://asiatimes.com/2020/07/focus-fusion-is-the-hottest-id...
netsharc 3y ago
The urban legend is, the weather reports hide the actual upper temperatures (replacing them with lower temps) because the true numbers would drive more farmers to suicide... At least the fact that the heat/dryness lead to suicide is true, although I can't verify if they would give up after hearing the weather predictions or after their crops failed: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=india+hot+weather+farmer+suicides&ia=web https://duckduckgo.com/?q=india+hot+weather+farmer+suicides&... Well this was a morbid comment...
- switch007 3y ago
  Farmers don’t own thermometers?
  - hammyhavoc 3y ago
    Bob Dylan says "you don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows".
tomcam 3y ago
Why not nuclear?
- sremani 3y ago
  India has 6 or so, Nuclear Power stations under construction, they will come online soon.
- thedrbrian 3y ago
  no can do. too scary ,see Chernobyl and Fukushima
  - tomcam 3y ago
    Virtually, no one died because of those disasters, surprisingly. Nuclear is infinitely safer than most other forms of energy and it has a better environmental footprint.
jmclnx 3y ago
True, but in reality what can India do ? Its position on the Globe puts it directly in "harms way", they could cut carbon to 0 but that would not really help them. As long as all other countries are opening up Coal Plants (China) and more Oil Fields (US), places like this will feel a lot of pain.
- the8472 3y ago
  > but that would not really help them But it would? It wouldn't solve the problem, but it would be part of not making it worse.
  - llampx 3y ago
    Going to 0 carbon is not free, otherwise every country would be doing it.
    - the8472 3y ago
      That doesn't change the fact that reducing carbon emissions would help with the problem.
ChumpGPT 3y ago
>The Indian state's persistent denial of science and criticism will continue to cost Indians their lives. It happened during COVID and will happen again in years to come. Perhaps this isn't an issue for the Gov. India losing 100-300 million people due to some catastrophic event would probably not even be noticed since it will be the poorest part of the population that will suffer the consequences.The only possibilities for salvation I can see is clean, renewable, endless energy or mass human migration to more temperate regions of the world.
- hammyhavoc 3y ago
  Uh, you're forgetting the logistics of dealing with the losses of 100-300 million people. Look at how COVID-19 filled morgues globally. India is in absolutely no position to deal with the logistics of a loss of life on that scale, and thus it would absolutely be noticed, disease spreading rapidly, creating a secondary humanitarian crisis.
sremani 3y ago
India relies on Coal because it does not have NG infrastructure, and with Ukraine war, the NG market shot-up in price because EU has basically bid-up the traditional NG suppliers to Global South. Remember when you take Carbon emissions per Capita, India is no where near China or US. So people pissing on India should know better, but they will any way because they an axe to grind.
Someone 3y ago
> There is a worse problem here - heat causes electric power demand to rise. No gigawatt-scale power grid anywhere on the planet has supplied increased demand through renewables. I expect that, for India, the solution will be to build a thousand megawatt-scale power grids, or, more likely, millions of sub-kilowatt-scale power grids. Connect a solar panel to a battery and an AC unit, and you have a standalone AC unit that works whenever there’s lots of sun, and in India that correlates reasonably well to ‘whenever it’s scorching hot’. With solar already cheaper to build than running _existing_ coal plants in India (https://www.renewableenergyworld.com/solar/report-its-now-cheaper-to-build-new-solar-than-to-run-existing-coal-plants-in-china-india-and-most-of-europe/ https://www.renewableenergyworld.com/solar/report-its-now-ch...), I expect that to even be economical, even if such standalone units waste energy if there’s sun but not need for AC.
- eldaisfish 3y ago
  it's not that simple and never is. Solar panels operate at peak power for around one hour per day. Adding tracking is not cheap or trivial. I regularly point out that those "prices" of renewable energy are predicated on a VERY important assumption - that the rest of the grid exists to deliver power when the renewable generators are not running. That has a cost and it not currently attributed to the source of the problem - the renewable generators. Rather, you and i pay that price.
Jenepas 3y ago
If you are genuinely concerned about protecting the planet, how about completely banning all kinds of meat especially beef since they cause the largest amount of Co's production and why not shut down the coal power plants in whichever rich part of the world you are from. Statistically speaking those would be of greater help than this random take Indian state is one of the most useful for science and hence pursue vegetarianism and concepts like Life. If you want perhaps start by yourself and reduce your carbon footprint.

briantakita 3y ago

The Indian government is funding implementation of Dense Plasma Focus devices which harness energy from a Plasmoid. Apparently, these power generators can fit on a large truck. I wonder what the current status of this is. https://asiatimes.com/2020/07/focus-fusion-is-the-hottest-idea-in-nuclear-energy-2/ https://asiatimes.com/2020/07/focus-fusion-is-the-hottest-id...

netsharc 3y ago

The urban legend is, the weather reports hide the actual upper temperatures (replacing them with lower temps) because the true numbers would drive more farmers to suicide... At least the fact that the heat/dryness lead to suicide is true, although I can't verify if they would give up after hearing the weather predictions or after their crops failed: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=india+hot+weather+farmer+suicides&ia=web https://duckduckgo.com/?q=india+hot+weather+farmer+suicides&... Well this was a morbid comment...

switch007 3y ago
Farmers don’t own thermometers?
- hammyhavoc 3y ago
  Bob Dylan says "you don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows".

tomcam 3y ago

Why not nuclear?

sremani 3y ago
India has 6 or so, Nuclear Power stations under construction, they will come online soon.
thedrbrian 3y ago
no can do. too scary ,see Chernobyl and Fukushima
- tomcam 3y ago
  Virtually, no one died because of those disasters, surprisingly. Nuclear is infinitely safer than most other forms of energy and it has a better environmental footprint.

jmclnx 3y ago

True, but in reality what can India do ? Its position on the Globe puts it directly in "harms way", they could cut carbon to 0 but that would not really help them. As long as all other countries are opening up Coal Plants (China) and more Oil Fields (US), places like this will feel a lot of pain.

the8472 3y ago
> but that would not really help them But it would? It wouldn't solve the problem, but it would be part of not making it worse.
- llampx 3y ago
  Going to 0 carbon is not free, otherwise every country would be doing it.
  - the8472 3y ago
    That doesn't change the fact that reducing carbon emissions would help with the problem.

ChumpGPT 3y ago

>The Indian state's persistent denial of science and criticism will continue to cost Indians their lives. It happened during COVID and will happen again in years to come. Perhaps this isn't an issue for the Gov. India losing 100-300 million people due to some catastrophic event would probably not even be noticed since it will be the poorest part of the population that will suffer the consequences.The only possibilities for salvation I can see is clean, renewable, endless energy or mass human migration to more temperate regions of the world.

hammyhavoc 3y ago
Uh, you're forgetting the logistics of dealing with the losses of 100-300 million people. Look at how COVID-19 filled morgues globally. India is in absolutely no position to deal with the logistics of a loss of life on that scale, and thus it would absolutely be noticed, disease spreading rapidly, creating a secondary humanitarian crisis.

sremani 3y ago

India relies on Coal because it does not have NG infrastructure, and with Ukraine war, the NG market shot-up in price because EU has basically bid-up the traditional NG suppliers to Global South. Remember when you take Carbon emissions per Capita, India is no where near China or US. So people pissing on India should know better, but they will any way because they an axe to grind.

Someone 3y ago

> There is a worse problem here - heat causes electric power demand to rise. No gigawatt-scale power grid anywhere on the planet has supplied increased demand through renewables. I expect that, for India, the solution will be to build a thousand megawatt-scale power grids, or, more likely, millions of sub-kilowatt-scale power grids. Connect a solar panel to a battery and an AC unit, and you have a standalone AC unit that works whenever there’s lots of sun, and in India that correlates reasonably well to ‘whenever it’s scorching hot’. With solar already cheaper to build than running _existing_ coal plants in India (https://www.renewableenergyworld.com/solar/report-its-now-cheaper-to-build-new-solar-than-to-run-existing-coal-plants-in-china-india-and-most-of-europe/ https://www.renewableenergyworld.com/solar/report-its-now-ch...), I expect that to even be economical, even if such standalone units waste energy if there’s sun but not need for AC.

eldaisfish 3y ago
it's not that simple and never is. Solar panels operate at peak power for around one hour per day. Adding tracking is not cheap or trivial. I regularly point out that those "prices" of renewable energy are predicated on a VERY important assumption - that the rest of the grid exists to deliver power when the renewable generators are not running. That has a cost and it not currently attributed to the source of the problem - the renewable generators. Rather, you and i pay that price.

Jenepas 3y ago

If you are genuinely concerned about protecting the planet, how about completely banning all kinds of meat especially beef since they cause the largest amount of Co's production and why not shut down the coal power plants in whichever rich part of the world you are from. Statistically speaking those would be of greater help than this random take Indian state is one of the most useful for science and hence pursue vegetarianism and concepts like Life. If you want perhaps start by yourself and reduce your carbon footprint.