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> But I am concerned about the direction Android is headed I'm with you, but we'll always have AOSP. And the cellphone market is now segmented enough that we'l

> But I am concerned about the direction Android is headed I'm with you, but we'll always have AOSP. And the cellphone market is now segmented enough that we'll probably also always have rootable phones.

solarkraft 3y ago
We'll always have the versions of AOSP Google has released, but they're not forced to do so in the future. And I'm not sure anyone else is interested in maintaining it.
- ta8903 3y ago
  Google only releases AOSP for Pixel devices, for most devices you need to rely on (and trust) some dude on a forum and it might not have 100% compatibility.
- drpixie 3y ago
  Isn't Fuchsia google's attempt to move phone off open systems, and onto all-google-no-license code? If it becomes a big thing, then only increasingly obsolete open-systems for us :(
  - saagarjha 3y ago
    Fuchsia is about as open as Android is today.
    - drpixie 3y ago
      Thanks - there was talk when Fuschia first became visible that it was to be locked down. The project site does not agree with that.
      - saagarjha 3y ago
        Whether it is “locked down” depends on your opinion of what Android is currently, I guess.
Ruq 3y ago
Ironically, I specifically have a Google Pixel so that I can mod it and gain more control over my phone.
- anony23 3y ago
  What are some examples of these types of mods?
  - alewi481 3y ago
    Custom ROMs? GrapheneOS or LineageOS come to mind.
kragen 3y ago
is anybody outside of google able to maintain aosp though
knaik94 3y ago
One of the most unfortunate things in the US is locked bootloaders. AT&T has even started whitelisting phones for Wifi Calling and VoLTE. And with 3g shutting down, it means international phone variants won't work at all on the network, regardless of the underlying band support. Many companies, including Samsung don't allow you to unlock your bootloader to root your phone even if you bought it outright. I found that midrange phones are now the best option if you want things like AOSP. The only true flagship left, that I know of, with a headphone jack and sd card and good rooting support is the Sony Xperia phones.

solarkraft 3y ago

We'll always have the versions of AOSP Google has released, but they're not forced to do so in the future. And I'm not sure anyone else is interested in maintaining it.

ta8903 3y ago
Google only releases AOSP for Pixel devices, for most devices you need to rely on (and trust) some dude on a forum and it might not have 100% compatibility.
drpixie 3y ago
Isn't Fuchsia google's attempt to move phone off open systems, and onto all-google-no-license code? If it becomes a big thing, then only increasingly obsolete open-systems for us :(
- saagarjha 3y ago
  Fuchsia is about as open as Android is today.
  - drpixie 3y ago
    Thanks - there was talk when Fuschia first became visible that it was to be locked down. The project site does not agree with that.
    - saagarjha 3y ago
      Whether it is “locked down” depends on your opinion of what Android is currently, I guess.

Ruq 3y ago

Ironically, I specifically have a Google Pixel so that I can mod it and gain more control over my phone.

anony23 3y ago
What are some examples of these types of mods?
- alewi481 3y ago
  Custom ROMs? GrapheneOS or LineageOS come to mind.

kragen 3y ago

is anybody outside of google able to maintain aosp though

knaik94 3y ago

One of the most unfortunate things in the US is locked bootloaders. AT&T has even started whitelisting phones for Wifi Calling and VoLTE. And with 3g shutting down, it means international phone variants won't work at all on the network, regardless of the underlying band support. Many companies, including Samsung don't allow you to unlock your bootloader to root your phone even if you bought it outright. I found that midrange phones are now the best option if you want things like AOSP. The only true flagship left, that I know of, with a headphone jack and sd card and good rooting support is the Sony Xperia phones.