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Unfortunately it's an area mostly controlled by gangs without a presence of the police or the government. Maybe if there is interest from politicians and busin

Unfortunately it's an area mostly controlled by gangs without a presence of the police or the government. Maybe if there is interest from politicians and business people to make money there, those hanging issues could be fixed. I would love to move and live there if it wasn't for those issues, it's so fucking gorgeous and cheap.

toyg 3y ago
> it's an area mostly controlled by gangs That's an exaggeration. Yes, there are significant issues with organized crime, but not everywhere.
oh_sigh 3y ago
I think you overstate the gang/organized crime problem, and in any case, skimming from public/large private contracts is the bread and butter of groups like this.
LtWorf 3y ago
> Unfortunately it's an area mostly controlled by gangs without a presence of the police or the government. Just FYI, godfather wasn't a documentary. It was a film based on a book written by some american writer.
- fathyb 3y ago
  I wouldn't go as far as OP but criminal gangs are not fiction. See 'Ndrangheta for example. > It is capable of heavily influencing local and national politics and infiltrating large sectors of the legal economy. In 2013 they purportedly made €53 billion, according to a study from Demoskopika Research Institute. A US diplomat estimated that the organization's drug trafficking, extortion and money laundering activities accounted for at least three percent of Italy's GDP in 2010. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27Ndrangheta https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27Ndrangheta
  - LtWorf 3y ago
    Yes crime exists. From there to say that it's a completely lawless state it's a big leap.
imtringued 3y ago
There are some cities that are well known mafia hotspots on Sicily but that is about it. It's a non-issue on Sardinia or the mainland.
- toyg 3y ago
  Eh, there are serious issues on the mainland too - although not as "totalitarian" as some comments suggest.

toyg 3y ago

> it's an area mostly controlled by gangs That's an exaggeration. Yes, there are significant issues with organized crime, but not everywhere.

oh_sigh 3y ago

I think you overstate the gang/organized crime problem, and in any case, skimming from public/large private contracts is the bread and butter of groups like this.

LtWorf 3y ago

> Unfortunately it's an area mostly controlled by gangs without a presence of the police or the government. Just FYI, godfather wasn't a documentary. It was a film based on a book written by some american writer.

fathyb 3y ago
I wouldn't go as far as OP but criminal gangs are not fiction. See 'Ndrangheta for example. > It is capable of heavily influencing local and national politics and infiltrating large sectors of the legal economy. In 2013 they purportedly made €53 billion, according to a study from Demoskopika Research Institute. A US diplomat estimated that the organization's drug trafficking, extortion and money laundering activities accounted for at least three percent of Italy's GDP in 2010. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27Ndrangheta https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27Ndrangheta
- LtWorf 3y ago
  Yes crime exists. From there to say that it's a completely lawless state it's a big leap.

imtringued 3y ago

There are some cities that are well known mafia hotspots on Sicily but that is about it. It's a non-issue on Sardinia or the mainland.

toyg 3y ago
Eh, there are serious issues on the mainland too - although not as "totalitarian" as some comments suggest.