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I’m all for farm to table but both NY and LA don’t need farms within city limits. All you’re saving by forcing that is a few hours of driving in a truck. If th

I’m all for farm to table but both NY and LA don’t need farms within city limits. All you’re saving by forcing that is a few hours of driving in a truck. If there’s an emissions concern then most farming regions are also good places for renewables like solar and wind. Electric or other carbon neutral vehicles seem like a more reasonable solution. Just a short trip outside of a city can probably get enough land for a large greenhouse if you want higher density farming with existing ag-tech and shorter transport.

saalweachter 3y ago
For NYC, it's not even "few", it's a couple hours drive at most. Hell, you're still within the commuter rail radius and closer to the city than its main reservoir.
CharlieDigital 3y ago
If it made sense, they would still be in business and thriving. I'm only offering one conjecture. Hindsight is 20/20, but I wouldn't make the case that it makes _zero_ sense; only that they couldn't prove the use case and find the right products and market. Definitely with a more high-value product that couldn't be sourced reasonably locally or even from the US, there may be a better economic case. It reminds me of this couple growing yuzu lemon in NJ and selling 5-10x the price to Michelin restaurants in the area: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwTc5929U5g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwTc5929U5g
- MichaelZuo 3y ago
  The odd thing is I haven't heard a single one of these startups target the luxury market. What you say makes a lot of sense.
Scoundreller 3y ago
> NY and LA don’t need farms within city limits. And generally speaking, I don’t want my food grown where it’s the most polluted. From the middle of nowhere with minimal population density, ideally upstream of any big city, is where I want my food coming from. (Will admit I start a garden at my mom’s in a medium sized city’s suburb, but when I run some containers on my balcony on a busy city street, the layers of dust from ??? concern me) Maybe this will get better once we don’t have the concentration of ICE vehicles in urban centres, but until then…

saalweachter 3y ago

For NYC, it's not even "few", it's a couple hours drive at most. Hell, you're still within the commuter rail radius and closer to the city than its main reservoir.

CharlieDigital 3y ago

If it made sense, they would still be in business and thriving. I'm only offering one conjecture. Hindsight is 20/20, but I wouldn't make the case that it makes _zero_ sense; only that they couldn't prove the use case and find the right products and market. Definitely with a more high-value product that couldn't be sourced reasonably locally or even from the US, there may be a better economic case. It reminds me of this couple growing yuzu lemon in NJ and selling 5-10x the price to Michelin restaurants in the area: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwTc5929U5g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwTc5929U5g

MichaelZuo 3y ago
The odd thing is I haven't heard a single one of these startups target the luxury market. What you say makes a lot of sense.

Scoundreller 3y ago

> NY and LA don’t need farms within city limits. And generally speaking, I don’t want my food grown where it’s the most polluted. From the middle of nowhere with minimal population density, ideally upstream of any big city, is where I want my food coming from. (Will admit I start a garden at my mom’s in a medium sized city’s suburb, but when I run some containers on my balcony on a busy city street, the layers of dust from ??? concern me) Maybe this will get better once we don’t have the concentration of ICE vehicles in urban centres, but until then…