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I use both. Brave is better for the "chromium only" wonky websites/webapps. But the whole altruistic privacy thing is kind of undercut, at least optics-wise,

by caycep 4y ago

I use both. Brave is better for the "chromium only" wonky websites/webapps. But the whole altruistic privacy thing is kind of undercut, at least optics-wise, by all the crypto/gamification upsell present by default. Not good when your supposedly privacy-focused browser requires extensive fiddling in the settings to shut everything off on initial install a-la Windows 11...

jacooper 4y ago
Honestly its very easy to ignore all the crypto crap. And its much better for your average user, since he/she will be private by just using brave, without any tinkering.
ThunderSizzle 4y ago
It's a little odd to be concerned about privacy focus on a post-Windows 10 os.
- Jorengarenar 4y ago
  They said Brave behaves like W11...
timbit42 4y ago
Why did you enable the crypto features if you don't want them? Oh. You didn't? Then what are you complaining about?
- Barrin92 4y ago
  They're everywhere by default. When I tried Brave out they had a wallet that popped up in the toolbar you seemingly can't uninstall, there's some sort crypto token reward thing (that you can't get rid of on mobile), on the new tab page there's sponsored crypto ads, and disabling this stuff, intentionally I suppose, is the only thing that does not sync so it always pops up on every new device. Not since the early 2000s when browsers were infested with random toolbars have I seen so much shady spam in a web browser.
  - somenameforme 4y ago
    The crypto stuff is opt-in only, including on mobile. If you accidentally enabled it, you can disable it by clicking on the settings icon and going to 'Brave Rewards' and turning off 'Brave Private Ads.'
    - AlotOfReading 4y ago
      This comment was completely incongruous with my previous Brave experiences, so I went ahead and did a fresh install on a clean system. * The wallet is enabled by default. * The new tab page shows crypto ads by default. I couldn't figure out how to opt-out of these despite a couple of minutes in the "customize dashboard" menu. I know the option exists, but it's well-hidden. * The BAT rewards icon is enabled by default, as well as the new tab card, as well as injected tip buttons on Github, Reddit, and Twitter. * BAT rewards itself is not enabled by default, but there are no less than 3 distinct notifications asking me to enable it. * Brave news is not enabled, but again there are multiple requests to enable it hidden throughout various menus. It's also not clear how Brave news interacts with Brave rewards. If I only enable news, do I still get the in-feed ads without the reward sharing, or is the news feed ad-free, or will only certain ad channels be shown? So no, the crypto stuff is not opt-in. It's mostly opt-out with the BAT rewards program specifically being opt-in.
      - soundnote 4y ago
        > * The new tab page shows crypto ads by default. I couldn't figure out how to opt-out of these despite a couple of minutes in the "customize dashboard" menu. I know the option exists, but it's well-hidden. Customize->Background image. Has a total of two switches. One for background images at all, the other for sponsored background images. Turn the second one off.
        wildrhythms 4y ago
        The discussion is about the default setting; not the ability to turn it on and off later.
matheusmoreira 4y ago
You can literally disable the ads in Brave. I've never seen any other advertiser offer that option.
- caycep 4y ago
  I would say defaults matter, and say a lot about priorities. I don't want to be judgmental about their funding model, but to have all of that turned on, after a fresh install, and in your face, by default...

by caycep 4y ago

jacooper 4y ago

Honestly its very easy to ignore all the crypto crap. And its much better for your average user, since he/she will be private by just using brave, without any tinkering.

ThunderSizzle 4y ago

It's a little odd to be concerned about privacy focus on a post-Windows 10 os.

Jorengarenar 4y ago
They said Brave behaves like W11...

timbit42 4y ago

Why did you enable the crypto features if you don't want them? Oh. You didn't? Then what are you complaining about?

Barrin92 4y ago
They're everywhere by default. When I tried Brave out they had a wallet that popped up in the toolbar you seemingly can't uninstall, there's some sort crypto token reward thing (that you can't get rid of on mobile), on the new tab page there's sponsored crypto ads, and disabling this stuff, intentionally I suppose, is the only thing that does not sync so it always pops up on every new device. Not since the early 2000s when browsers were infested with random toolbars have I seen so much shady spam in a web browser.
- somenameforme 4y ago
  The crypto stuff is opt-in only, including on mobile. If you accidentally enabled it, you can disable it by clicking on the settings icon and going to 'Brave Rewards' and turning off 'Brave Private Ads.'
  - AlotOfReading 4y ago
    This comment was completely incongruous with my previous Brave experiences, so I went ahead and did a fresh install on a clean system. * The wallet is enabled by default. * The new tab page shows crypto ads by default. I couldn't figure out how to opt-out of these despite a couple of minutes in the "customize dashboard" menu. I know the option exists, but it's well-hidden. * The BAT rewards icon is enabled by default, as well as the new tab card, as well as injected tip buttons on Github, Reddit, and Twitter. * BAT rewards itself is not enabled by default, but there are no less than 3 distinct notifications asking me to enable it. * Brave news is not enabled, but again there are multiple requests to enable it hidden throughout various menus. It's also not clear how Brave news interacts with Brave rewards. If I only enable news, do I still get the in-feed ads without the reward sharing, or is the news feed ad-free, or will only certain ad channels be shown? So no, the crypto stuff is not opt-in. It's mostly opt-out with the BAT rewards program specifically being opt-in.
    - soundnote 4y ago
      > * The new tab page shows crypto ads by default. I couldn't figure out how to opt-out of these despite a couple of minutes in the "customize dashboard" menu. I know the option exists, but it's well-hidden. Customize->Background image. Has a total of two switches. One for background images at all, the other for sponsored background images. Turn the second one off.
      - wildrhythms 4y ago
        The discussion is about the default setting; not the ability to turn it on and off later.

matheusmoreira 4y ago

You can literally disable the ads in Brave. I've never seen any other advertiser offer that option.

caycep 4y ago
I would say defaults matter, and say a lot about priorities. I don't want to be judgmental about their funding model, but to have all of that turned on, after a fresh install, and in your face, by default...