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Sounds like the driver was attempting to adjust non-critical features of wipers not turning them off and on We should be very careful not to include the kitche

Sounds like the driver was attempting to adjust non-critical features of wipers not turning them off and on We should be very careful not to include the kitchen sink in with "essential" items. Turning the wipers off and on, is critical, adjusting delay timings is not

Aeolun 4y ago
Depends on how hard the rain is pouring down.
kurisufag 4y ago
my 2003 Honda Accord allows you to change wiper interval the same way you enable/disable it -- moving the right-hand stick a notch. setting it to a high speed will fuck up the wipers when there is little rain, a /low/ speed will be useless when there is appreciable rain, and when driving you often move from one to another.
randallsquared 4y ago
Shortening a delay timing has the same effect as turning the wiper on in some rain conditions.
- naravara 4y ago
  I can't help but feel like we've made a mistake by concentrating so many of the people who design our standard software UX patterns in California. From Tesla designing car interfaces that don't understand how wipers need to work to Apple designing weather apps that don't clearly communicate wind chill to smartphones that require use of the touchscreen to answer a phone call rendering it impossible to answer while wearing gloves. It's like they only understand the concept of weather from TV shows set in New York.
  - martyvis 4y ago
    This is comedy gold!
  - firstlink 4y ago
    Careful, this is only one step removed from fascistly suggesting that regulations which work in downtown SF don't work in rural areas.
  - htrp 4y ago
    Self driving cars don't work in snow.....
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nicky0 4y ago
If you're in a rainstorm and the wipers are set to "minimum speed" then turning the speed up would be critical.
- londons_explore 4y ago
  The safe thing to do would be to pull over first, as you see the rain getting heavier, then adjust.
  - scarface74 4y ago
    Yes because pulling over on a multi lane highway in the rain when you have poor visibility and then trying to merge into traffic is much safer. Besides, what if you are on the road with no shoulders.
  - smaudet 4y ago
    I can immediately think of several situations where that is not at all possible to do. Construction, cliff roads, country roads, etc. Tesla are unsafe death traps by design.
    - concordDance 4y ago
      > Tesla are unsafe death traps by design. This is completely untrue by third party metrics (both governmental and not).
      - BanazirGalbasi 4y ago
        They meet crash standards, yes. But the interior design of them encourages unsafe driving. Between putting almost everything inside a touch screen and pushing autopilot (which encourages drivers to pay attention less), they are creating more distractions from controlling their 2-ton metal boxes. Drivers are licensed operators of heavy machinery that travels at high speed. Let's not encourage systems that turn us into more dangerous operators.
Gordonjcp 4y ago
> Turning the wipers off and on, is critical, adjusting delay timings is not You've never driven in rain, have you?
- Rediscover 4y ago
  Fun story: My ex (one of my best friends), born and raised in Seattle, used to give me serious grief anytime I mention rain in Boston or NYC. She had no belief in what I would describe. Work finally ships her out to (NYC). She calls me up to say she just ran ~2meters from the hotel to the taxi and is soaking wet. She has never commented on Seattle "rain" since. REAL rain.
  - GenerocUsername 4y ago
    Seattelite here. We get that rain too periodically. Sesttelites complain about rain because we regularly experience 100+ days of rain. Seattle rain is not not a storm, it's a marathon.
    - madcaptenor 4y ago
      https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-17/this-simple-great-map-shows-that-seattle-is-far-from-america-s-rainiest-city https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-17/this-simp... There's a map here that shows that most of the eastern US gets more rain than Seattle, but Seattle is very high on the number of days of measurable precipitation.
  - Gordonjcp 4y ago
    I'm from north-west Scotland. Many years ago we had a guy working for us who was sent over from our company's parent company in Southern Cali. He was not keen on going out in the rain at all, and was absolutely terrified that we still drove at 60mph when it was raining. "But what if you skid? It's raining!" he'd wail. He'd never driven in rain. He just did not take well to a Scottish January, especially the bit where you get 140mph winds for a couple of weeks.
martyvis 4y ago
Maybe your rain is different from the rain where I live. Being able to adjust speeds is critical so I get maximum vision with minimum distraction
Spooky23 4y ago
Huh? Every car from 1960-2010 managed to provide intermittent wiper controls that were straightforward to use.
LorenPechtel 4y ago
It's a critical function--high speed in light rain will cause problems from the rubber moving across basically dry glass, low/intermittent speed in heavy rain won't clear your view properly.

Aeolun 4y ago

Depends on how hard the rain is pouring down.

kurisufag 4y ago

my 2003 Honda Accord allows you to change wiper interval the same way you enable/disable it -- moving the right-hand stick a notch. setting it to a high speed will fuck up the wipers when there is little rain, a /low/ speed will be useless when there is appreciable rain, and when driving you often move from one to another.

randallsquared 4y ago

Shortening a delay timing has the same effect as turning the wiper on in some rain conditions.

naravara 4y ago
I can't help but feel like we've made a mistake by concentrating so many of the people who design our standard software UX patterns in California. From Tesla designing car interfaces that don't understand how wipers need to work to Apple designing weather apps that don't clearly communicate wind chill to smartphones that require use of the touchscreen to answer a phone call rendering it impossible to answer while wearing gloves. It's like they only understand the concept of weather from TV shows set in New York.
- martyvis 4y ago
  This is comedy gold!
- firstlink 4y ago
  Careful, this is only one step removed from fascistly suggesting that regulations which work in downtown SF don't work in rural areas.
- htrp 4y ago
  Self driving cars don't work in snow.....

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nicky0 4y ago

If you're in a rainstorm and the wipers are set to "minimum speed" then turning the speed up would be critical.

londons_explore 4y ago
The safe thing to do would be to pull over first, as you see the rain getting heavier, then adjust.
- scarface74 4y ago
  Yes because pulling over on a multi lane highway in the rain when you have poor visibility and then trying to merge into traffic is much safer. Besides, what if you are on the road with no shoulders.
- smaudet 4y ago
  I can immediately think of several situations where that is not at all possible to do. Construction, cliff roads, country roads, etc. Tesla are unsafe death traps by design.
  - concordDance 4y ago
    > Tesla are unsafe death traps by design. This is completely untrue by third party metrics (both governmental and not).
    - BanazirGalbasi 4y ago
      They meet crash standards, yes. But the interior design of them encourages unsafe driving. Between putting almost everything inside a touch screen and pushing autopilot (which encourages drivers to pay attention less), they are creating more distractions from controlling their 2-ton metal boxes. Drivers are licensed operators of heavy machinery that travels at high speed. Let's not encourage systems that turn us into more dangerous operators.

Gordonjcp 4y ago

> Turning the wipers off and on, is critical, adjusting delay timings is not You've never driven in rain, have you?

Rediscover 4y ago
Fun story: My ex (one of my best friends), born and raised in Seattle, used to give me serious grief anytime I mention rain in Boston or NYC. She had no belief in what I would describe. Work finally ships her out to (NYC). She calls me up to say she just ran ~2meters from the hotel to the taxi and is soaking wet. She has never commented on Seattle "rain" since. REAL rain.
- GenerocUsername 4y ago
  Seattelite here. We get that rain too periodically. Sesttelites complain about rain because we regularly experience 100+ days of rain. Seattle rain is not not a storm, it's a marathon.
  - madcaptenor 4y ago
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-17/this-simple-great-map-shows-that-seattle-is-far-from-america-s-rainiest-city https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-17/this-simp... There's a map here that shows that most of the eastern US gets more rain than Seattle, but Seattle is very high on the number of days of measurable precipitation.
- Gordonjcp 4y ago
  I'm from north-west Scotland. Many years ago we had a guy working for us who was sent over from our company's parent company in Southern Cali. He was not keen on going out in the rain at all, and was absolutely terrified that we still drove at 60mph when it was raining. "But what if you skid? It's raining!" he'd wail. He'd never driven in rain. He just did not take well to a Scottish January, especially the bit where you get 140mph winds for a couple of weeks.

martyvis 4y ago

Maybe your rain is different from the rain where I live. Being able to adjust speeds is critical so I get maximum vision with minimum distraction

Spooky23 4y ago

Huh? Every car from 1960-2010 managed to provide intermittent wiper controls that were straightforward to use.

LorenPechtel 4y ago

It's a critical function--high speed in light rain will cause problems from the rubber moving across basically dry glass, low/intermittent speed in heavy rain won't clear your view properly.