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It's safe to assume that stock Windows 11 leaks every single thing you do to Microsoft. That's the point.
by api 3y ago
It's safe to assume that stock Windows 11 leaks every single thing you do to Microsoft. That's the point.
- INeedMoreRam 3y ago[dead]
- sourcelang 3y agoI remember opening up a new HP laptop with Windows installed, around 2016. Out of curiosity I installed Wireshark and inspected some of the outgoing packets from pre-installed software on the Windows system. Alongside the usual telemetry, I found some packets being sent to an IP registered by the US military, straight to a military base, no proxy or anything. Maybe there’s a perfectly non-nefarious explanation but that investigation sure felt like it confirmed my suspicions…
- linuxftw 3y agoProbably related to TLS CAs. Windows insists on phoning home to these CAs.
- sourcelang 3y agoInteresting. Does this actually have any security implications or is my paranoia for nothing? In my head, “normal“ CAs used by browsers for example are held to a high standard of digital trust. Whereas trust in the US military as a CA sort of implies blind faith. But I honestly don’t feel that I know enough about TLS to know why I should trust, say, digicert or identrust, more or less than the US military.
- linuxftw 3y agoThe US Government issues their own certs for many agencies, so there's no commercial entity that acts as the CA. These CAs are installed by Windows just like most other CAs.
- flangola7 3y agoWas it registered as ARPA?
- Jenk 3y agoTikTok gets lambasted for being a mass surveilance platform for the Chinese state. Microsoft gets a pass.
- capableweb 3y agoWell, depends on which internet you browse. On the English speaking internet, TikTok does indeed get a lot of flak. But on the other internets, Microsoft gets lots of criticism for how the spy on users too, together with all the other big US-based companies. It receives it on the English speaking internet as well, but nowhere near the level as what can be seen outside of that.
- lotsoweiners 3y agoThe difference is Microsoft isn’t sending it to the Chinese presumably.
- brazzledazzle 3y agoProbably a CRL query against a CA.
- jklinger410 3y agoIt's a feature, not a bug.
- jimsimmons 3y agoWhat is the feature?
- guestbest 3y agoThe computer is part of the cloud, but the user is paying for electricity and storage costs. At the loss of privacy the user gets all their data backed up in cloud discoverable through a bing web search from any workstation
- jimsimmons 3y agoAt the risk of being advertised based on your intimate life details
- jklinger410 3y agoThe feature is the discounted price of the OS. See, MSFT wants to charge you about 3x the MSRP and gain recurring revenue. Although they won't give normal users this option, if you wanted the non-spyware version of Windows, you would need to pay a subscription.