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Microsoft is 3rd place on consoles, non-existent on pc, non-existent on mobile. And this deal would have moved it to 3rd place in publishing.

by MikusR 3y ago

paol 3y ago
> non-existent on pc You may want to think a little longer on that ;)
- MikusR 3y ago
  So should you.
  - lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago
    Xbox has a digital marketplace on which game developers (sometimes a dreaded publisher) sell games and Microsoft gets a cut of the deal. Microsoft makes money because a game is sold on the Xbox digital marketplace. Microsoft has no (popular) equivalent to Steam, GoG, Epic Games Store, etc., and as such have no (popular) way of monetizing PC games sales. (As in, we're still talking about a games market and not an OS market. OP doesn't have to rethink their claim that MS is "non-existent on pc" because they practically are.)
snapcaster 3y ago
As a MSFT shareholder I agree. As a citizen of the world I think it's fine to stop multi trillion dollar companies from expanding anymore regardless of impact and I think most reasonable people would agree
- AraceliHarker 3y ago
  If you are a shareholder of MSFT, please tell them to stop making Windows 11 full of ads.
  - samstave 3y ago
    >>to stop making Windows 11 full STOP W11 is utter trash (as I type this from W11 PC and when I mouse over to the left, it pulls up ads ... how can I block this at my router? anyone know the domains it pulls from. I need a blacklist of all MS ad domains. Also, here was something that just happened this morning ;; I opened my machine, and I clicked on the firefox menu icon, and it fucking opened microsoft EDGE. It HIJACKED the firefox icon. I had to reboot... and it added a fucking "search bing" thing to my menu bar... WHAT THE FUCK. I didnt set this up. Why is W11 making ANY changes to my machine autonomously???????? https://i.imgur.com/F8jdaUH.png https://i.imgur.com/F8jdaUH.png https://i.imgur.com/mBos3Do.jpg https://i.imgur.com/mBos3Do.jpg
    - eatsyourtacos 3y ago
      I am still baffled they even made W11. I really thought Windows10 was going to turn into like... Windows. As in, they just keep updating it- why the hell do we need more versions!
    - web3-is-a-scam 3y ago
      The self-ware Bing/Sydney AI is procreating.
  - snapcaster 3y ago
    lol no, i don't use windows they can milk it as much as they want
- nonethewiser 3y ago
  That’s not what anti trust means though. If that’s the reasoning the commission acting outside it’s purpose.
  - snapcaster 3y ago
    I think anti-trust has been narrowed so much we've lost sight of the goal. The point of this stuff is because capitalism and democracy kind of break down when a single private entity becomes too powerful. If "anti-trust" can't apply to globe-spanning behemoths crushing all their competitors then it's a dumb thing and we should start doing something better
Hamuko 3y ago
>non-existent on pc What's the share of PC gaming on Microsoft Windows vs. not on Microsoft Windows?
- MikusR 3y ago
  They don't get any money from people playing on Windows. All the money goes to Valve
  - Hamuko 3y ago
    My gaming PC doesn't have a Windows license because I like Microsoft or Windows. Written on my Mac Studio.
  - Vermeulen 3y ago
    Your mostly correct - but it's wrong to say 'non-existent' on PC due to how successful PC Game Pass is
  - deleted 3y ago
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  - thehappypm 3y ago
    Isnt gaming a big draw to buying Windows in the first place?
- poloniculmov 3y ago
  Thanks to Proton, most games work on Linux, as long as they don't have any anti-cheat rootkits.
  - seattle_spring 3y ago
    So the only online games you can play on Linux are full of blatant cheaters?
  - Hamuko 3y ago
    ProtonDB rates 28% of the top 1000 games as platinum ("runs perfectly out of the box"). The rest either need some tweaks, have some issues, or just don't work. My assumption is that most gamers don't care too much tweak with their games, so I wouldn't put that much weight on the gold category. And when it comes to silver and below, that can be pretty nasty. And when looking at the top 20 most played games on Steam, there's some pretty big titles missing. PUBG (5th most played) is borked, CoD MWII (6th) is borked, Destiny 2 (9th) is borked, Rainbow Six Siege (10th) is borked, FIFA 23 (11th) is borked, NARAKA: BLADEPOINT (13th) is silver, Rust (14th) is bronze and Dead by Daylight (20th) is bronze. So when it comes to "most players", there's definitely a lot of gaps too. I have a Steam Deck and I can have pretty good gaming experiences on it. Surprisingly even. But it's definitely not perfect, and one of the reasons why I can feel pretty confident in owning a Steam Deck is that I still have a Windows-based gaming PC that I can fall back on.
drumhead 3y ago
>non-existent on pc Hmmmmmmmm........

Microsoft is 3rd place on consoles, non-existent on pc, non-existent on mobile. And this deal would have moved it to 3rd place in publishing.

by MikusR 3y ago

Microsoft is 3rd place on consoles, non-existent on pc, non-existent on mobile. And this deal would have moved it to 3rd place in publishing.

paol 3y ago

> non-existent on pc You may want to think a little longer on that ;)

MikusR 3y ago
So should you.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago
  Xbox has a digital marketplace on which game developers (sometimes a dreaded publisher) sell games and Microsoft gets a cut of the deal. Microsoft makes money because a game is sold on the Xbox digital marketplace. Microsoft has no (popular) equivalent to Steam, GoG, Epic Games Store, etc., and as such have no (popular) way of monetizing PC games sales. (As in, we're still talking about a games market and not an OS market. OP doesn't have to rethink their claim that MS is "non-existent on pc" because they practically are.)

snapcaster 3y ago

As a MSFT shareholder I agree. As a citizen of the world I think it's fine to stop multi trillion dollar companies from expanding anymore regardless of impact and I think most reasonable people would agree

AraceliHarker 3y ago
If you are a shareholder of MSFT, please tell them to stop making Windows 11 full of ads.
- samstave 3y ago
  >>to stop making Windows 11 full STOP W11 is utter trash (as I type this from W11 PC and when I mouse over to the left, it pulls up ads ... how can I block this at my router? anyone know the domains it pulls from. I need a blacklist of all MS ad domains. Also, here was something that just happened this morning ;; I opened my machine, and I clicked on the firefox menu icon, and it fucking opened microsoft EDGE. It HIJACKED the firefox icon. I had to reboot... and it added a fucking "search bing" thing to my menu bar... WHAT THE FUCK. I didnt set this up. Why is W11 making ANY changes to my machine autonomously???????? https://i.imgur.com/F8jdaUH.png https://i.imgur.com/F8jdaUH.png https://i.imgur.com/mBos3Do.jpg https://i.imgur.com/mBos3Do.jpg
  - eatsyourtacos 3y ago
    I am still baffled they even made W11. I really thought Windows10 was going to turn into like... Windows. As in, they just keep updating it- why the hell do we need more versions!
  - web3-is-a-scam 3y ago
    The self-ware Bing/Sydney AI is procreating.
- snapcaster 3y ago
  lol no, i don't use windows they can milk it as much as they want
nonethewiser 3y ago
That’s not what anti trust means though. If that’s the reasoning the commission acting outside it’s purpose.
- snapcaster 3y ago
  I think anti-trust has been narrowed so much we've lost sight of the goal. The point of this stuff is because capitalism and democracy kind of break down when a single private entity becomes too powerful. If "anti-trust" can't apply to globe-spanning behemoths crushing all their competitors then it's a dumb thing and we should start doing something better

Hamuko 3y ago

>non-existent on pc What's the share of PC gaming on Microsoft Windows vs. not on Microsoft Windows?

MikusR 3y ago
They don't get any money from people playing on Windows. All the money goes to Valve
- Hamuko 3y ago
  My gaming PC doesn't have a Windows license because I like Microsoft or Windows. Written on my Mac Studio.
- Vermeulen 3y ago
  Your mostly correct - but it's wrong to say 'non-existent' on PC due to how successful PC Game Pass is
- deleted 3y ago
  [deleted]
- thehappypm 3y ago
  Isnt gaming a big draw to buying Windows in the first place?
poloniculmov 3y ago
Thanks to Proton, most games work on Linux, as long as they don't have any anti-cheat rootkits.
- seattle_spring 3y ago
  So the only online games you can play on Linux are full of blatant cheaters?
- Hamuko 3y ago
  ProtonDB rates 28% of the top 1000 games as platinum ("runs perfectly out of the box"). The rest either need some tweaks, have some issues, or just don't work. My assumption is that most gamers don't care too much tweak with their games, so I wouldn't put that much weight on the gold category. And when it comes to silver and below, that can be pretty nasty. And when looking at the top 20 most played games on Steam, there's some pretty big titles missing. PUBG (5th most played) is borked, CoD MWII (6th) is borked, Destiny 2 (9th) is borked, Rainbow Six Siege (10th) is borked, FIFA 23 (11th) is borked, NARAKA: BLADEPOINT (13th) is silver, Rust (14th) is bronze and Dead by Daylight (20th) is bronze. So when it comes to "most players", there's definitely a lot of gaps too. I have a Steam Deck and I can have pretty good gaming experiences on it. Surprisingly even. But it's definitely not perfect, and one of the reasons why I can feel pretty confident in owning a Steam Deck is that I still have a Windows-based gaming PC that I can fall back on.

drumhead 3y ago

>non-existent on pc Hmmmmmmmm........