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> Obesity Epidemic: Why do humans, pets, and even lab animals of many species kept in controlled lab conditions on standardized diets appear to be increasingly
by csours 4y ago
> Obesity Epidemic: Why do humans, pets, and even lab animals of many species kept in controlled lab conditions on standardized diets appear to be increasingly obese over the 20th century? What could explain all of them simultaneously becoming obese? (Is it literally something in the water?)
I think it would help us if we understood why this problem is so hard to understand and what our blind spots are.
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It is easy to see the problems that an obese person has. It is easy to feel like they should know better and make changes for their health. It looks like a big problem that should be taken seriously.
But that's not how that person got there. 1-5 pounds of excess fat does not feel like a big problem. Fat gain is usually quite slow and steady, and the body has time to get used to it. In other words, it's not a problem that suddenly shows up in a person's life, and it doesn't physically feel like a problem (until it's too late).
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Hunger doesn't have a number. Scientists have an aversion to studying things that don't have numbers. It doesn't feel like serious science.
Hunger isn't weakness or failure, it's a whole body response to lack of nutrients.
Hunger isn't one thing, it's a bunch of body sensations and psychological triggers and conditioning.
Hunger acts like a one-way valve - there is a strong negative feeling for a moderate lack of nutrients, there is no equivalent feeling for a moderate excess of nutrients. People can often lose fat while dieting, but then gain it back. That has been described as the hunger set-point. Winter is coming and losing your energy supply may kill you (says evolution).
Hunger is not comparable between people. I don't know how bad you feel when you miss a meal, and you don't know how bad I feel.
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I can eat like a king at every meal, every day. I can eat like a king of a different country every single day. I'm never limited to boring food.
Corporations make money from "adding value" to food, advertising it and selling it. The value add is to make food very tasty - sugar, salt, fat, flavor. There's no pressure at the corporate level to market food in accordance with health goals. The "sugar tax" has been thoroughly demonized.
The problem with gravy and sauces is not just the caloric content. It is the inducement to eat more. An experiment: buy unsalted and salted nuts of your choice (or unflavored and flavored rice cakes, etc). Eat as many of the unflavored item as you care to. Now think about eating the flavored version. Did you suddenly feel like you could eat more? Your gut and your mind talk to each other. If you taste something good or even imagine tasting something good, and it is different enough from something you just ate, your body will tell you that you are still hungry.
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On the calories out side, studies show that exercise has little effect on fat by itself. Exercise is good for health, but remember that your body will tell you to eat more to make up for it.
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Advice time: Learn to control hunger. This may take quite a lot of effort and learning. I recommend the books "The Hungry Brain" and "Burn".
Eat boring food high in protein and fiber.
Find exercise that you enjoy.
Control your food environment. If you have snacks around, your brain will remember them. If you have snacks within reach, your body may start eating them without conscious command.
- ebuck 4y agoThere's a lot of real diet research, the kind that is peer-reviewed, double-blind, and likely to never make it into a news article. That said, you offered some of the best advice I've seen: | Eat boring food high in protein and fiber. Which is effectively the opposite of nearly every kind of snack food that is currently popular.
- bawolff 4y ago> It is easy to see the problems that an obese person has. It is easy to feel like they should know better and make changes for their health. It looks like a big problem that should be taken seriously. If the article is correct (haven't verified myself), that lab animals on a controlled diet are more obesse now than in the past, that contradicts basically everything you wrote.
- marcosdumay 4y agoYou will have a hard time finding controlled animal diets from long ago that were actually controlled. At the 80's and 90's there was a wave of scientific articles about how diet impacts lab animals, all new because most labs never bothered to look before.
- bawolff 4y agoThe 80s was 40 years ago. That seems like enough time to check if there is a trend.
- csours 4y agoI don't doubt the observation, I doubt how well controlled the confounding factors are.
- Dowwie 4y ago- The Hungry Brain: https://www.amazon.com/Hungry-Brain-Outsmarting-Instincts-Overeat/dp/1250081203 https://www.amazon.com/Hungry-Brain-Outsmarting-Instincts-Ov... - Burn: https://www.amazon.com/Burn-Research-Really-Calories-Healthy/dp/0593421043 https://www.amazon.com/Burn-Research-Really-Calories-Healthy...