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> Coders made up 14% of employees at tech companies Wow is this true? If so, I'm extremely surprised it is this low. No wonder Elon could cut 80% of jobs and e

> Coders made up 14% of employees at tech companies Wow is this true? If so, I'm extremely surprised it is this low. No wonder Elon could cut 80% of jobs and everything would keep ticking along.

hef19898 3y ago
That assumes "supporting" functions from HR over Accounting to Sales are actually not doing anything at a daily basis...
- maxilevi 3y ago
  How many HR employees do you realistically need for a company that is downsizing?
  - hef19898 3y ago
    Quiteva few, actually. Downsizing does require a lot of admin work. Once the downsizing happened, well, those downsizing HR folks are the last to be downsized.
    - swexbe 3y ago
      To do what exactly? Click send on the mass email?
      - anthonypasq 3y ago
        how are you actually this naive? Classic HN attitude of thinking every single job that isnt engineering does nothing. You understand theres tons of underlying systems like payroll, insurance, legal issues, severance packages, government filings that happen when you either hire or fire someone?
  - orwin 3y ago
    A lot, until the downsizing is done. Although the US don't seems to have a lot of these 'worker's rights' so I guess I don't really know (/s).
slig 3y ago
And the consensus was that Twitter wouldn't survive the next weekend.
- Doofus20230425 3y ago
  As Microsoft's old lay offs from the Windows team had shown, the company can just keep producing a crappier product and things will just carry on.
michaelt 3y ago
It depends. Many people would call Amazon a tech company - but they employ a lot of customer service folks, warehouse workers, and delivery drivers. Most people would call Facebook a tech company - but they employ a lot of content moderators and ad sales people. And so on. Most people would call Apple a tech company - but they have people staffing their retail stores and repairing broken laptops. And so on. Not every business can be run like Google, with zero customer support and zero service delivery :)

> Coders made up 14% of employees at tech companies Wow is this true? If so, I'm extremely surprised it is this low. No wonder Elon could cut 80% of jobs and everything would keep ticking along.

hef19898 3y ago

That assumes "supporting" functions from HR over Accounting to Sales are actually not doing anything at a daily basis...

maxilevi 3y ago
How many HR employees do you realistically need for a company that is downsizing?
- hef19898 3y ago
  Quiteva few, actually. Downsizing does require a lot of admin work. Once the downsizing happened, well, those downsizing HR folks are the last to be downsized.
  - swexbe 3y ago
    To do what exactly? Click send on the mass email?
    - anthonypasq 3y ago
      how are you actually this naive? Classic HN attitude of thinking every single job that isnt engineering does nothing. You understand theres tons of underlying systems like payroll, insurance, legal issues, severance packages, government filings that happen when you either hire or fire someone?
- orwin 3y ago
  A lot, until the downsizing is done. Although the US don't seems to have a lot of these 'worker's rights' so I guess I don't really know (/s).

slig 3y ago

And the consensus was that Twitter wouldn't survive the next weekend.

Doofus20230425 3y ago
As Microsoft's old lay offs from the Windows team had shown, the company can just keep producing a crappier product and things will just carry on.

michaelt 3y ago

It depends. Many people would call Amazon a tech company - but they employ a lot of customer service folks, warehouse workers, and delivery drivers. Most people would call Facebook a tech company - but they employ a lot of content moderators and ad sales people. And so on. Most people would call Apple a tech company - but they have people staffing their retail stores and repairing broken laptops. And so on. Not every business can be run like Google, with zero customer support and zero service delivery :)