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Yeah, it's like running an email server in your basement, or bringing your laptop in for repair.

orwin 4y ago
agree for the first (Clinton got out easy imho, but as i understand, Republicans were afraid of setting a precedent), hard disagree on the second. Unless you think you can use politician children against them.
- Akronymus 4y ago
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  - krapp 4y ago
    If that were actually the case, the Republicans would be impeaching him with it as we speak. Fox News and all the right-leaning press would be running wall to wall coverage on it. It's getting pathetic at this point. Hunter Biden's laptop isn't going to take down the Biden administration. It isn't going to be Biden's Watergate. It isn't going to get Trump another term. Find something real that actually sticks.
- krapp 4y ago
  It's become an autonomic response on HN at this point, if one mentions Trump in any capacity other than ebullient praise, the Trumpists show up to spread insinuations about the Bidens and Hillary Clinton. I guess in their heads somehow that "wins" the argument every time.
  - reportgunner 4y ago
    I don't think anyone wins in that argument.
    - krapp 4y ago
      realistically, if they manage to derail the thread, they win.
- r3trohack3r 4y ago
  I’m hesitant to comment on this because we are so far off topic. But I’m not sure this is the take I would have on Hunter Biden. > Unless you think you can use politician children against them. As a senator, Joseph Biden went through tough on crime phases and his hands are not clean in the war on drugs. There are a lot of single family houses in the U.S. whose children grew up talking to dad through a plexiglass window, all over hookers and powder. These policies have ruined families, ruined childhoods, and destroyed communities. And Senator Joseph Biden was, and continues to be, a part of that damage by shaping the policies that sent dads to jail. Then hookers and powder show up on his back porch. Now it’s a different story. His grandchildren don’t have to talk to dad through a plexiglass window. His grandchildren don’t have to grow up in a single parent household. I’m not saying we should do that to his grandchildren, that would be awful. I’m saying send those dads you locked up for hookers and powder home to their families.
  - orwin 4y ago
    I did not comment on that, nor on Biden's hypocrisy. The comment i was responding to was a comment on how top-level government employees should be barred from using their own stuff to bypass federal obligations. Gp talked about media platform, and my parent said basically : "hosting your own mail server and bringing your laptop to a repair shop should be forbidden to". I wholly agree for the first, and hard disagree on the second, because i do not think the children of politicians should be impaired or targeted because of the job of their parents. At most by the IRS and FTC, by a transpartisan audit unit specialized in dealing with politicians (Hi Pelosi!), and even then, only if their parent's stuff look weird.
mschuster91 4y ago
For what it's worth, compliance with basic ethics of governance should not be a partisan topic. Clinton, Biden and Trump all fucked up massively (and Trump, most obviously, the hardest). Neither of the three should be in any position of power any more, alone because of the precedent that Biden and Trump's laissez-faire attitude towards top secret documents set for the lower rungs - after all, why not take top secret documents home and share them with others when Trump (most likely) did the same?

agree for the first (Clinton got out easy imho, but as i understand, Republicans were afraid of setting a precedent), hard disagree on the second. Unless you think you can use politician children against them.

Akronymus 4y ago
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- krapp 4y ago
  If that were actually the case, the Republicans would be impeaching him with it as we speak. Fox News and all the right-leaning press would be running wall to wall coverage on it. It's getting pathetic at this point. Hunter Biden's laptop isn't going to take down the Biden administration. It isn't going to be Biden's Watergate. It isn't going to get Trump another term. Find something real that actually sticks.
krapp 4y ago
It's become an autonomic response on HN at this point, if one mentions Trump in any capacity other than ebullient praise, the Trumpists show up to spread insinuations about the Bidens and Hillary Clinton. I guess in their heads somehow that "wins" the argument every time.
- reportgunner 4y ago
  I don't think anyone wins in that argument.
  - krapp 4y ago
    realistically, if they manage to derail the thread, they win.
r3trohack3r 4y ago
I’m hesitant to comment on this because we are so far off topic. But I’m not sure this is the take I would have on Hunter Biden. > Unless you think you can use politician children against them. As a senator, Joseph Biden went through tough on crime phases and his hands are not clean in the war on drugs. There are a lot of single family houses in the U.S. whose children grew up talking to dad through a plexiglass window, all over hookers and powder. These policies have ruined families, ruined childhoods, and destroyed communities. And Senator Joseph Biden was, and continues to be, a part of that damage by shaping the policies that sent dads to jail. Then hookers and powder show up on his back porch. Now it’s a different story. His grandchildren don’t have to talk to dad through a plexiglass window. His grandchildren don’t have to grow up in a single parent household. I’m not saying we should do that to his grandchildren, that would be awful. I’m saying send those dads you locked up for hookers and powder home to their families.
- orwin 4y ago
  I did not comment on that, nor on Biden's hypocrisy. The comment i was responding to was a comment on how top-level government employees should be barred from using their own stuff to bypass federal obligations. Gp talked about media platform, and my parent said basically : "hosting your own mail server and bringing your laptop to a repair shop should be forbidden to". I wholly agree for the first, and hard disagree on the second, because i do not think the children of politicians should be impaired or targeted because of the job of their parents. At most by the IRS and FTC, by a transpartisan audit unit specialized in dealing with politicians (Hi Pelosi!), and even then, only if their parent's stuff look weird.

mschuster91 4y ago

For what it's worth, compliance with basic ethics of governance should not be a partisan topic. Clinton, Biden and Trump all fucked up massively (and Trump, most obviously, the hardest). Neither of the three should be in any position of power any more, alone because of the precedent that Biden and Trump's laissez-faire attitude towards top secret documents set for the lower rungs - after all, why not take top secret documents home and share them with others when Trump (most likely) did the same?