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Sideloading will only be allowed where it is required by law: https://www.macworld.com/article/1794764/sorry-u-s-iphone-users-sideloading-in-ios-17-will-likely

Sideloading will only be allowed where it is required by law: https://www.macworld.com/article/1794764/sorry-u-s-iphone-users-sideloading-in-ios-17-will-likely-be-limited-to-europe.html https://www.macworld.com/article/1794764/sorry-u-s-iphone-us...

2OEH8eoCRo0 4y ago
So I can't buy an iPhone while on vacation in Europe and bring it to the US?
- sixstringtheory 4y ago
  EU can’t enforce laws outside their legal jurisdiction. So I guess if you somehow trick Apple into seeing your phone as operating in the EU, then this would work. But I don’t know how you could do so if you use a cellular data connection.
  - 2OEH8eoCRo0 4y ago
    So if I buy a phone in Europe and get it all set up then Apple will remove functionality when I return to the States?
    - sixstringtheory 4y ago
      It would be very easy to do. They already control what you see on the app store depending on your locale. I’m not saying it’s a certainty. I don’t think it would be fair to do to EU citizens traveling in the US on vacation, eg.
      - MBCook 4y ago
        If you base it on the App Store account that handles both cases pretty well from Apple’s perspective. US users can buy all the EU phones they want, with a US account you’re treated like every other American. EU users can buy a phone anywhere and since they have an EU store account they get side loading. Where the phone was purchased from is irrelevant. All that matters is the verified payment address.
        kube-system 4y ago
        IIRC this (iCloud account address) is how Apple decides whether or not you are a Chinese user for purposes of Chinese regulations.
    - deleted 4y ago
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    - madeofpalk 4y ago
      This doesn't currently exist, so it's entirely hypothetical speculation.
- fathyb 4y ago
  They'll likely use the same system they use to limit health features in jurisdictions where it's not approved (e.g. ECG).
  - MBCook 4y ago
    Oh good point, they do already have to do this don’t they.
    - kube-system 4y ago
      There are a lot of regulatory requirements that change by region. Besides health regulations there are spectrum regulations, privacy and data governance regulations, and heck, in China the entire iCloud infrastructure is completely different.
- npteljes 4y ago
  Look at already existing geo blocking systems. It always depends on the implementation. Can you buy a cheap DVD somewhere in Asia, and play it at home in the US? No, because the DVD has a region, and the player has a region, and so, you also have to buy a player where you buy the DVD. Netflix has another system, it checks in real time. You get the content of the region your client connects from. If you fire up a VPN, you get the catalogue of the region your VPN server is in (if Netflix lets you connect, that is).
shjake 4y ago
We don’t know that. If/when Apple allows side loading it might be available globally (eventually anyway) to avoid any public backlash and practical concerns .

2OEH8eoCRo0 4y ago

So I can't buy an iPhone while on vacation in Europe and bring it to the US?

sixstringtheory 4y ago
EU can’t enforce laws outside their legal jurisdiction. So I guess if you somehow trick Apple into seeing your phone as operating in the EU, then this would work. But I don’t know how you could do so if you use a cellular data connection.
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 4y ago
  So if I buy a phone in Europe and get it all set up then Apple will remove functionality when I return to the States?
  - sixstringtheory 4y ago
    It would be very easy to do. They already control what you see on the app store depending on your locale. I’m not saying it’s a certainty. I don’t think it would be fair to do to EU citizens traveling in the US on vacation, eg.
    - MBCook 4y ago
      If you base it on the App Store account that handles both cases pretty well from Apple’s perspective. US users can buy all the EU phones they want, with a US account you’re treated like every other American. EU users can buy a phone anywhere and since they have an EU store account they get side loading. Where the phone was purchased from is irrelevant. All that matters is the verified payment address.
      - kube-system 4y ago
        IIRC this (iCloud account address) is how Apple decides whether or not you are a Chinese user for purposes of Chinese regulations.
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]
  - madeofpalk 4y ago
    This doesn't currently exist, so it's entirely hypothetical speculation.
fathyb 4y ago
They'll likely use the same system they use to limit health features in jurisdictions where it's not approved (e.g. ECG).
- MBCook 4y ago
  Oh good point, they do already have to do this don’t they.
  - kube-system 4y ago
    There are a lot of regulatory requirements that change by region. Besides health regulations there are spectrum regulations, privacy and data governance regulations, and heck, in China the entire iCloud infrastructure is completely different.
npteljes 4y ago
Look at already existing geo blocking systems. It always depends on the implementation. Can you buy a cheap DVD somewhere in Asia, and play it at home in the US? No, because the DVD has a region, and the player has a region, and so, you also have to buy a player where you buy the DVD. Netflix has another system, it checks in real time. You get the content of the region your client connects from. If you fire up a VPN, you get the catalogue of the region your VPN server is in (if Netflix lets you connect, that is).

shjake 4y ago

We don’t know that. If/when Apple allows side loading it might be available globally (eventually anyway) to avoid any public backlash and practical concerns .